Medicare for All Support Goes up 9%

In the midst of a pandemic that has spurred an economic crisis and put Americans’ health care costs in stark contrast with the rest of the industrialized world, support for “Medicare for All” has risen to its highest point in about nine months, according to new Morning Consult/Politico data.

 

The sweeping health reform package championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) that would provide all Americans with health insurance through the government now has support from 55 percent of registered voters, per a March 27-29 survey of 1,997 respondents, taken as the United States became the global epicenter of the coronavirus. 

 

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This isn't surprising given a lot of people are seeing up-close how inadequate our for-profit healthcare system is for the first time and a lot of people are getting COBRA notices where they find out their health insurance premiums are in excess of $2k a month when they don't have a job.

Edited on Apr 1, 2020 9:46am

When a very important follow up question is asked - would you support MFA if your taxes go up, support drops

Originally posted by: tom

When a very important follow up question is asked - would you support MFA if your taxes go up, support drops


Heading into 30-35% unemployment, people aren't worried about their taxes going up. In fact, most are expecting the government to continue providing them periodic cash injections during this cirisis.  

The question of if your taxes go up is loaded and disingenuous. The real wording should be, If your taxes go up but you no longer have to pay for medical care?

 

Warren and Sanders have repeatedly made that point. YES, your taxes would go up, but your OVERALL COSTS would go DOWN. And isn't that all that matters--the bottom line?

 

And when Tom wheels out any one if his tired old arguments in response, I'll just say, why do we spend twice as much per capita on health care as the other Western industrialized nations?


I would be happy to see my taxes go up in return for free health care. I'd come out ahead. Removing the profit imperative from American health care would save hundreds of billions of dollars. Streamlining care to a single-payer system would save the 1 out of every 5 dollars that is now consumed in billing and collections. We know this works--we've observed it in other countries.

 

And yes yes yes, I know about long wait times in Canada and SOOOOCIALISM in Venezuela blah blah blah. I think you're right, Mark. People are going to be a lot more supportive of universal health care once this is over. There will be millions of horror stories of people who couldn't get care or were bankrupted in the process.

Edited on Apr 1, 2020 11:13am

Canadian Healthcare as experienced by Canadians -https://www.facebook.com/prageru/videos/215135279841863/

160m Americans receive employee insurance. So if that goes away those people get a tax increase. 

Will Americans be willing to pay another 30% in taxes plus value added taxes?  Don't think so. 

Also ignored is the long term unfunded Medicare deficit which you guys ignore. 

But this had repeatedly been brought up before. 

Tom, these imbeciles here touting Socialism and "free health care" do not like to be reminded the facts that you allude to. They will ignore your posting and if they respond, their response will be negative. 

Our resident free-market purists who support the current socialist bailout need not worry.   Medicare for all is not coming any time soon.

 

There are too many people in this country like Tom and David who think spending 12k plus out of pocket expenses in private premiums is somehow cheaper than 6k (and no out of pocket) on taxes.    Thats the penalty our society pays for having too many educated by Texas public schools.   

 

(BTW - US Employee insurance is part of one's compensation package.  COuntries that have taxes instead of private insurance  offer this compensation in other forms to their employees (primarily extra paid time off).   Thats why in Europe and Canada vacation time  almost universally starts at 6 weeks for salaried jobs and goes higher based on tenure.)   But yeah, they write checks to the government instead of Cigna which takes away all their freedom.

 

 

Edited on Apr 1, 2020 1:44pm

Tom, hilariously, thinks that employer-provided health insurance is free. That's breathtakingly stupid and naive!

 

In actuality, of course, employees receive "compensation packages." If those include insurance, then they'll include lower cash wages as a result. Employees pay for employer-supplied insurance one way or another.

 

If the government supplied health insurance and health care, employers' costs would go way down, and they could afford to pay their employees more. But that never gets mentioned by the anti-healthcare fanatics.

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