Mike Pence Says Government Can Force Other People's Faith Upon You.

So...by "draining the swamp"...by which conservitards mean, eliminate corruption in government without removing themselves in the process...the RepubliQ will be able to destroy the Bill of Rights and install a Mike Pence-style Christian theocracy?

Not surprising that a Trump-licking idiot like you would want that, I guess.

Nope. The "demise of America" won't occur if our basic freedoms are preserved. It might easily happen if they're taken away, a la Pence.

We have to realize that for Pence (apparently) and all the religious nutball evangelicals out there, the First Amendment as well as the concept that a citizen's religious affiliation or lack thereof is his business alone are inherently wrong--and immoral. So NOT teaching little Johnny to genuflect and put money in the collection plate is blasphemous--which justifies any and all extreme efforts to make sure he gets the "proper education."

Silly me, I consider any effort to force people to practice the tenets of a particular belief system to be what's truly immoral. In addition, the Christian faith is just another irrational mythology--no different than the Hugga Bugga people's belief that their god Fluxatos was born from a giant mango--and only an idiot would believe in its shtick. Anyone with a brain can see that as with every other religion, it was created to allow a parasitic priest class to make a good living.

Mark..Yes,well. Originally, Jefferson was quite adamantly against 'forced faith'..I'm a proponent of that traditional approach. I don't think my side can accomplish this under the current cutthroat conditions in DC ( the two-thirds vote from both houses to establish an alteration of the first amendment). Could be wrong, and I know and respect a small handful of decent Christians, btw. *l* Next, we can argue about football coaches leading a post-game prayer on the field..just for fun. If that praying group are all  there and participating under their own free will, I see no harm nor infringement of laws. What do you think?

@Kevin..I can't agree with your point touting the Christian faith as just another irrational mythology. In spite of that, it's not my business to force that belief or practice upon anybody else. I think that's the core of the issue here.

Ummm...since a player who falls out of the coach's favor may find himself relegated to a secondary role, or not playing at all, is those players' participation really voluntary? No different than if your boss started every meeting with a prayer session. Could you risk walking out?

I have no objection to religion per se. After all, people have the freedom to believe any irrational wackadoodle shit they want. What I object to is when religion becomes coercive, and adherence to "the faith" becomes a test of fitness, loyalty, suitability, or even worthiness to live. And the Christian faith has been the worst offender by far in that aspect.

Yes, but a major element of the problem is that religious believers (of all stripes) elevate their religion from a belief system, the tenets of which have absolutely no basis in fact, to "gospel truth" (so to speak), to the extent where even suggesting that the man with the long white beard sitting on a cloud may not be real is a moral and often legal crime.

If you think the Christian faith is rational, I suggest you ask yourself if there is even one tiny shred of evidence in the totality of human experience to confirm the existence of God, heaven, hell, life after death, Cleveland, etc. If you're honest with yourself, your answer would be "none," and the next step, if you had the courage to take it, would be "Well, why do I believe it, then?" And your honest answer would be " Because it makes me feel good."

I'm kind of weird, apparently, in that the more pleasurable a belief might be, the LESS inclined I am to embrace it. That's because I don't want to disable my bullshit filter. And yeah, I get it; it's tempting. Wouldn't it be great if we had eternal life and our time in this world was just a prelude? If people's suffering would be alleviated and compensated for a thousandfold after they left this world? If bad people were ultimately punished? If good people were ultimately rewarded? It would be soon wonderful. But there's no evidence at all--not one iota-- that that's the way things are.

I've not heard such a claim other than on this site.  I did a Google search attempting to find an article on this subject but was unsuccessful.

Since our Libs know about this, would one of you guys post an article which includes supporting quotes to this accusation from Pence?  I expect nothing.

I agree that people who make claims should have to support them with exact quotes or similar proof!

But Boilerman, when you wrote the above, were there any lightening strikes and thunder in you vicinity?

Boiler, you make unsupported claims every single day, and then you weasel when asked to verify them. So you indeed shouldn't expect anyone to listen to your demands.