Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
There's still a decent chance. I certainly hope they're OK.
No one wants them to die, but the chance of finding them, in my opinion, is slim to none.
The crew of the Kursk had a better chance of rescue. They're problem was Putin not giving a shit.
Good thoughts, Candy.
Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
Article in our paper today described two possible mishaps, "lost all power" or "hull breach and imploded instantly. Both...devastatingly hopeless." A "longtime ocean scientist" and friend of one of the crew said it is a "fundamentally new submarine design."
I'd never say anyone "deserves what they get", as all of history contains terrible outcomes resulting from trying something with the hope of future benefit.
Reminds me what was said about all of the NASA projects from the beginning...every mission had problems that had not been thought of and corrected beforehand...1) Apollo 1 (the hatch that couldn't be opened from the inside, fire, 3 astronauts killed); 2) the Challenger (the seals, unanticpated temperature drop though that problem was known and reported before launch); Apollo 13, defective part that sparked in an oxygen tank during flight. Can't recall what happened on Columbia, other than heat seal didn't hold on re-entry?
Pray they find this thing and the crew alive, but sounds ominous.
Candy
Well, whoever wrote that article should have done a little better research...because a submersible craft has to have power to stay submerged. If that sub simply lost all power, it would have bobbed to the surface like a cork (eventually). Therefore, it must have gotten trapped/stuck within the wreckage, since there's nothing else that deep to get entangled in. If there was a hull breach, of course, game over, though the thing is literally built like an armored tank many times over. (I've been amazed at just how uncommon hull breach disasters have been in the history of submarines, even during WWII.)
I wouldn't compare this to a NASA mission, as this was a rich tourist thingy, not a scientific enterprise. That said, the efforts to rescue the passengers could be of scientific or even military value. And I don't think we want to see people die even if they ARE rich. Well, hold it...the guy who invented speed bumps must be pretty wealthy. Him, I want to rub out.
Re the Columbia: during launch, a large piece of foam from the external fuel tank came off as it separated from the main module during liftoff and punched a hole in the left wing--multiple tiles were lost. This had apparently happened before with previous shuttles, resulting in damage from minor to almost-destroyed. NASA was aware of what had happened (and presumably, so was the crew), and there was talk of repurposing satellites to get a closer look at the damage, but ultimately it was concluded that there was no way the crew could fix the damage, and no way to mount any kind of rescue mission, so it was decided to go ahead with reentry as scheduled, and hope. Boom.
Many prominent scientists have commented on just how jury-rigged the space shuttle fleet was; one (I forget who) said, "The thing has to strain its guts just to work." And I've read in multiple places that the aggregate fatalities from the space program have actually been far fewer than could have been mathematically expected. You climb on top of a rocket to visit a place utterly incapable of sustaining human life, well...it's horribly dangerous.
As is diving 2 1/2 miles to the bottom of the ocean.
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Originally posted by: Vegas Todd
No one wants them to die, but the chance of finding them, in my opinion, is slim to none.
The crew of the Kursk had a better chance of rescue. They're problem was Putin not giving a shit.
"They're problem"
The gift that just keeps giving. Please stick to posting your links, zero. Sometimes you can hide your stupidity when doing that.
Oh look, Gay Jerry is dangling off my lower intestine.... As usual.
Adds nothing to any thread he enters, he's just here looking for...... Attention from men.
''I work with Drs''
The gift that keeps giving.....Todd the ignorant coward. "They're" he is!
Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33
The gift that keeps giving.....Todd the ignorant coward. "They're" he is!
This thread was in danger of becoming an intelligent discussion about something interesting. Thanks for saving us from that.
I'm reading reports of a debris field found by the wreck of Titanic. That would likely mean an implosion.
