More proof that Liberal policies don't work.

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

My take on this is similar to other social Ills.  In the case of mental illness, in times past persons with mental illness were hidden away by their families, little to no treatment.  Wars brought home soldiers who weren't the same son, husband, brother, etc. they waved goodbye to.  Families rightly expected the lovely homecoming, everybody happy, hugs all around, everything back to normal.  But what they got was a scarred young man unable to get back to where he was socially and psychologically, a daddy who couldn't give what he no longer had to his wife and kids.  Families hid them away somehow, or maybe they drifted out of the lives of those who had loved them once.   Veterans hospitals became shell-shock center and ongoing psychiatric care, what was known of it at the time.  (I had some experience in that arena.  I still smell the odor of paraldehyde, one of the few 'drugs' available in 1968, at least, to calm their damaged minds.)

 

As more and more soldiers came home damaged, psychiatric facilites began to bulge at the seams.   Criteria had to be established for who would be housed there forever.  Judges were loathe to limit freedoms by involuntarily committing everyone. 

 

So, I don't know about "Ronald Reagan closed mental health facilities, but somebody had to take care of them.  Residential treatment was designed, people willing to take the least sick of the sickest into their homes, house, feed, personal care, ensure they got their meds, for a stipend.  Success of that type of program varies, but that was one example of "closing mental health hospitals", because there just isn't enough room and skilled medical staff willing to practice in that environment versus make millions doing cardiac procedures.  But it isn't like doors were locked and treatment abandoned.  

 

Candy

 

 


Candy, Abraham Lincoln realized that the true cost of the Civil War would go on for generations--thus, he founded the VA. But a century later, we didn't want to acknowledge a similar burden from the Vietnam and Korean wars. Remember Reagan's Happy Fun Sunshine Bunnies and Rainbows in America shtick? Caring for our vets didn't jive with that. So they were swept under the rug. Which helped to pay for all them shiny new GUNZ  to rattle at them Rooskies.

 

Yay Ronny Raygun!

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

50 percent. LOL. "People are fleeing." LOL.

 

Never trust a lyin' Boiler.


There is the delusional world of kevin & then there is the real world.

 

Actually the vacancy is almost 32%

 

The vacancy rate hit 31.8% in the second quarter of 2023, according to recently released preliminary data from CBRE, a new record high for the city. The rate was at 29.4% in the first quarter of the year, up from 27.6% in the fourth quarter of 2022.

 

The U.S. Census estimates the 2022 population of the City and County of San Francisco to be 808,437, representing a loss of 65,000 people and 7.5% compared to 2020. The city’s population dropped by 7.2% between 2020 and 2021

 

The Bay Area has 250k.

Originally posted by: tom

There is the delusional world of kevin & then there is the real world.

 

Actually the vacancy is almost 32%

 

The vacancy rate hit 31.8% in the second quarter of 2023, according to recently released preliminary data from CBRE, a new record high for the city. The rate was at 29.4% in the first quarter of the year, up from 27.6% in the fourth quarter of 2022.

 

The U.S. Census estimates the 2022 population of the City and County of San Francisco to be 808,437, representing a loss of 65,000 people and 7.5% compared to 2020. The city’s population dropped by 7.2% between 2020 and 2021

 

The Bay Area has 250k.


And who says they're "fleeing" anything? Have you asked them? What if they're just moving ten miles away to the suburbs? Because that's what's actually happening.

 

Stupid Tommie-poo.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

And who says they're "fleeing" anything? Have you asked them? What if they're just moving ten miles away to the suburbs? Because that's what's actually happening.

 

Stupid Tommie-poo.


The entire San Francisco vacancies are running at about 33%.  The center of downtown has over 50% space empty.  If Kevin wasn't only listening to fake news, he would already know this.


Originally posted by: Boilerman

The entire San Francisco vacancies are running at about 33%.  The center of downtown has over 50% space empty.  If Kevin wasn't only listening to fake news, he would already know this.


I don't believe that for a second. I'm sure that your "source" is bogus. Don't bother posting it.

Originally posted by: tom

There is the delusional world of kevin & then there is the real world.

 

Actually the vacancy is almost 32%

 

The vacancy rate hit 31.8% in the second quarter of 2023, according to recently released preliminary data from CBRE, a new record high for the city. The rate was at 29.4% in the first quarter of the year, up from 27.6% in the fourth quarter of 2022.

 

The U.S. Census estimates the 2022 population of the City and County of San Francisco to be 808,437, representing a loss of 65,000 people and 7.5% compared to 2020. The city’s population dropped by 7.2% between 2020 and 2021

 

The Bay Area has 250k.


Kevin on a good day.....the highest part of that picture is doing most of his talking here.

 

Businessman with head stuck in sand at the beach - Clarity Advantage

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Kevin on a good day.....the highest part of that picture is doing most of his talking here.

 

Businessman with head stuck in sand at the beach - Clarity Advantage


What a mature and compelling argument. From the same person who criticizes Todd for doing the same thing. 

 

I don't need to ignore the facts. Boiler's and stupid Tommie-poo's arguments are the opposite of facts. The vacancy rate in downtown SFO is actually below 5%.

Jerry is right

 

According to the latest population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau, California's total population declined by more than 500,000 between April 2020 and July 2022

 

I supplied my source for the vacancy rate.  Will kevin provide his?

The vacancy rate in downtown SFO is actually below 5%

 

Originally posted by: tom

Jerry is right

 

According to the latest population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau, California's total population declined by more than 500,000 between April 2020 and July 2022

 

I supplied my source for the vacancy rate.  Will kevin provide his?

The vacancy rate in downtown SFO is actually below 5%

 


You've yet to supply an actual source for any of your ridiculous claims.

In the delusional world of stupid Kevin the Census Bureau is not a source. 

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