The moronavirus is still by far the greater threat

We still do not have a vaccine against the moronavirus. Those currently infected with it still support Trump.

 

There is some hope. It doesn't appear to be spreading. While those who have it may be incurable, there are very few new cases. This means that the number of affected people will slowly shrink, from natural causes if not an actual cure. There is evidence that the elderly are particularly susceptible to the moronavirus, given that demographic's support for Trump in 2016. The good news is that given their age, many of those folks won't be around in November.

 

There are no moronavirus test kits available, but you can easily tell if someone is afflicted. Avoid contact with such persons--the risk of contagion is low, but those afflicted with the moronavirus are irrational and often violent. Anyone walking down the street, waving his arms and screaming "MAGAMAGAMAGA" should be avoided by the public, and brought down by the police with a tranquilizer gun.

 

The moronavirus has contributed to the spread of the coronavirus, as those with the moronavirus support and encourage Trump's erratic and ineffectual efforts to deal with the coronavirus outbreak. That will result in hundreds, maybe thousands of preventable deaths, but the moronavirus has already caused several thousand such deaths.

I agree with you about the moronovirus. However, I think it also infects people on the left who think goverments of the world can protect them from everything including viruses.

That's an exaggeration at best, and a simple lie at worst. Governments can lower the risk of certain negative events---such as food poisoning, by agencies such as the FDA; deaths from traffic accidents, by agencies such as the NTSA; deaths from natural disasters, by agencies such as FEMA---and of course, i could go on.

 

It's silly to say that just because governments can't completely protect us from danger, they shouldn't try at all. No reasonable person expects complete protection. It's a mischaracterization of people's thoughts to say that they do expect it.

 

Those "on the left" realize that there are many ways that government can improve people's lives. They don't expect complete safety--that's a nonsense conservative talking point. It's often used as an excuse to advocate for no government services at all.

Edited on Mar 5, 2020 8:30pm

that was hilarious


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

That's an exaggeration at best, and a simple lie at worst. Governments can lower the risk of certain negative events---such as food poisoning, by agencies such as the FDA; deaths from traffic accidents, by agencies such as the NTSA; deaths from natural disasters, by agencies such as FEMA---and of course, i could go on.

 

It's silly to say that just because governments can't completely protect us from danger, they shouldn't try at all. No reasonable person expects complete protection. It's a mischaracterization of people's thoughts to say that they do expect it.

 

Those "on the left" realize that there are many ways that government can improve people's lives. They don't expect complete safety--that's a nonsense conservative talking point. It's often used as an excuse to advocate for no government services at all.


I agree with you that the government should try to protect us. But they cant.  The agencies you quote above have all been around forever and try but dony quite do a great job all the time. There are still cases of food contamination, air disasters etc.......The CDC has been around a long time before this administration and still dropped the ball. If this little corner responsible for healthcare dropped the ball, why would I want the government to run ALL of healthcare?

Originally posted by: Rightdownthemiddle

I agree with you that the government should try to protect us. But they cant.  The agencies you quote above have all been around forever and try but dony quite do a great job all the time. There are still cases of food contamination, air disasters etc.......The CDC has been around a long time before this administration and still dropped the ball. If this little corner responsible for healthcare dropped the ball, why would I want the government to run ALL of healthcare?


Short answer--because that government wouldn't be Republicans, and it wouldn't be headed by Trump.

 

You have to realize, Obama created task forces and set aside billions of dollars precisely to deal with pandemics--and Trump tore all that apart. We can't blame the CDC for not doing things it didn't have the money to do.

 

A lot of people have been kidding themselves that Trump is an aberration and that we can just wait out and survive his presidency. But a LOT of the shit he does--or fails to do--leads to active harm.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Short answer--because that government wouldn't be Republicans, and it wouldn't be headed by Trump.

 

You have to realize, Obama created task forces and set aside billions of dollars precisely to deal with pandemics--and Trump tore all that apart. We can't blame the CDC for not doing things it didn't have the money to do.

 

A lot of people have been kidding themselves that Trump is an aberration and that we can just wait out and survive his presidency. But a LOT of the shit he does--or fails to do--leads to active harm.


What you stated above is incorrect. The fact is Trump TRIED to cut the budget but was denied by congress. The CDC has the same budget it always has had. The head of the CDC a staunch Hillary supporter did resign after Trump was elected and Trump folded his Czar job into the health and human services department. The plan on how our government is suppose to react to a pandemic has been in place for years and is being followed. Can more be done? Probably, but since a lot is not known about the incubation period, hows its transmited etc..if actions are taken before we know these answer we can cause harm and can also divert funds from where they will be needed later. I know most people think thsi can be stopped but no actions taken by any government in history has prevented the spread of any virus. Wash your hands.

Originally posted by: Rightdownthemiddle

What you stated above is incorrect. The fact is Trump TRIED to cut the budget but was denied by congress. The CDC has the same budget it always has had. The head of the CDC a staunch Hillary supporter did resign after Trump was elected and Trump folded his Czar job into the health and human services department. The plan on how our government is suppose to react to a pandemic has been in place for years and is being followed. Can more be done? Probably, but since a lot is not known about the incubation period, hows its transmited etc..if actions are taken before we know these answer we can cause harm and can also divert funds from where they will be needed later. I know most people think thsi can be stopped but no actions taken by any government in history has prevented the spread of any virus. Wash your hands.


Uhhh...actually, the prompt actions taken by the Obama administration stopped the Ebola virus from spreading into the US. And it's not the only historical example of that by any stretch of the imagination.

 

I know that you're a radical right-winger (despite your screen name), and your ideology is "government is bad and it can't do anything right." There are, in fact, quite a few vital functions that can ONLY be performed by government. And our government could have done much more to contain the virus if Trump hadn't fucked up.

 

Trump has restricted funding for the CDC in other, indirect ways. He has also crippled its functioning. The only reason he's doing anything at all now is that he realized that his inaction was hurting him politically. Does he care about people dying? Hell, no!

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Uhhh...actually, the prompt actions taken by the Obama administration stopped the Ebola virus from spreading into the US. And it's not the only historical example of that by any stretch of the imagination.

 

I know that you're a radical right-winger (despite your screen name), and your ideology is "government is bad and it can't do anything right." There are, in fact, quite a few vital functions that can ONLY be performed by government. And our government could have done much more to contain the virus if Trump hadn't fucked up.

 

Trump has restricted funding for the CDC in other, indirect ways. He has also crippled its functioning. The only reason he's doing anything at all now is that he realized that his inaction was hurting him politically. Does he care about people dying? Hell, no!


You know nothing about my political leanings. Ill fill you in. I've voted in 10 Presidential elections. I've voted for 5 republicans, 4 democrats, and 1 independent. I dont think the government is bad and cant do anything right. As a matter of fact I've liked things that both parties have done. What I don't think is, that being so blinded by hate and ideology will help me make informed decisions. I see through the BS both sides put out, find the facts and then make up my mind. There are plenty of things I dont like about Trump. However how he's handled this crisis isn't one of them. The facts not the narrative prove me correct. By the way I'm not new to this board. I've been lurking around (seldom posting) around since Rizzo the Rat used to post his bikini pic of the day. I think PJ might have been around back then as well as others.   

Originally posted by: Rightdownthemiddle

You know nothing about my political leanings. Ill fill you in. I've voted in 10 Presidential elections. I've voted for 5 republicans, 4 democrats, and 1 independent. I dont think the government is bad and cant do anything right. As a matter of fact I've liked things that both parties have done. What I don't think is, that being so blinded by hate and ideology will help me make informed decisions. I see through the BS both sides put out, find the facts and then make up my mind. There are plenty of things I dont like about Trump. However how he's handled this crisis isn't one of them. The facts not the narrative prove me correct. By the way I'm not new to this board. I've been lurking around (seldom posting) around since Rizzo the Rat used to post his bikini pic of the day. I think PJ might have been around back then as well as others.   


"No actions taken by any government in history has (sic) prevented the spread of any virus." This completely false statement aligns with your prior statements that government can't solve problems and therefore shouldn't try--ignoring, of course, that government can mitigate problems even if it can't solve them.

 

Your ideology actually sounds like the Cliven Bundy types or those who barricade themselves in a compound in the woods of Idaho. I in fact consider myself a libertarian but don't view the government, or government itself, as an enemy, the way those folks do.

 

Where you go off the rails IMHO is in not realizing how horribly Trump has handled this crisis. You also use a specious false equivalence argument when you say that "both sides" spew BS, hate, ideology, etc. Anyone who is objective can see that the right is much less objective and lies far more frequently than the left. And I'm not saying that because of my particular political views. I'm saying that because I've listened extensively to both sides for years. Conservative media and pundits used to be, in fact, not all that biased. Then Trump came along, and they degenerated into a farce.

 

"The facts" prove you wrong about your approval of Trump's handling of the crisis, but like all of the Trumper nutjobs on this board, you can cherry-pick those "facts" to suit your preconceived notions.

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