The moronavirus is still by far the greater threat

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

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"No actions taken by any government in history has (sic) prevented the spread of any virus." This completely false statement aligns with your prior statements that government can't solve problems and therefore shouldn't try--ignoring, of course, that government can mitigate problems even if it can't solve them.

 

Your ideology actually sounds like the Cliven Bundy types or those who barricade themselves in a compound in the woods of Idaho. I in fact consider myself a libertarian but don't view the government, or government itself, as an enemy, the way those folks do.

 

Where you go off the rails IMHO is in not realizing how horribly Trump has handled this crisis. You also use a specious false equivalence argument when you say that "both sides" spew BS, hate, ideology, etc. Anyone who is objective can see that the right is much less objective and lies far more frequently than the left. And I'm not saying that because of my particular political views. I'm saying that because I've listened extensively to both sides for years. Conservative media and pundits used to be, in fact, not all that biased. Then Trump came along, and they degenerated into a farce.

 

"The facts" prove you wrong about your approval of Trump's handling of the crisis, but like all of the Trumper nutjobs on this board, you can cherry-pick those "facts" to suit your preconceived notions.

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Originally posted by: Rightdownthemiddle

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Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you are correct. Are you sure you're not as big a narcissist as Trump? You both think that only your opinion could possibly be correct. They're not. Its your OPNION that the right is less objective. I dont agree. That doesn't mean I'm wrong, instead its you like Trump who Cherry picks facts and claims everything else must be fake. As for stopping viruses, mitigating them isn't stopping the spread of them. It will be intetesting to see how the quarantine of the town in NY will work. If it doesn't, Trump can't be blamed. This was a democratic idea. If it does what would you suggest we quarantine next?

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Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

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And it doesn't mean I'm not. I don't use other people's opinions to gauge whether mine are accurate or not. You're wrong when you say that I don't believe opinions that disagree with mine could be correct. In fact, I've changed my stance on many things, many times. Hell, I used to be a conservative, until I realized the fundamental lies that are at the heart of that ideology.

 

But no, when I'm talking about objectivity, opinions don't matter. Simple fact-checking can determine who's lying. Check out Politico and other fact-checkers. They'll back up what I've been saying. Of course, at that point, you can claim they're biased.

 

Actually, mitigating a virus's spread does ultimately stop it. Doing nothing a la Trump and spreading FAKE NOOZE that it's no problem, everybody go to work, sure as hell won't stop it.

 

It's too late for quarantine to work, due to Trump's botching and the fact that you can't tell if 4 out of 5 people are infected because the coronavirus is 80% of the time asymptotic. So you need to test everyone, and process those tests--and Trump destroyed the mechanism to do so in 2018. It's amazing how anyone could think that Trump has handled this competently--and that's NOT a matter of opinion. I know what Trump did to weaken our ability to respond to pandemics. That's indisputable and shouldn't be debated.

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Originally posted by: Rightdownthemiddle

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Again I think you're too smart to believe your rhetoric. The problem is the media (on both sides) creates the narrative even if it is false or is opinoin and runs with it. Then later, when its been proven false, people still come on the programs and spout the false narrative and are never corrected on it. One example of this is that Obama was a really a Muslum on fox. Since then there has been many more narratives that have been attributed to Trump that the transcript of the interview or other means proves false. All Mexicans are rapists, There were good people on both sides, the Corrona virus is a hoax, Trump cut the CDC budget. All of these naratives have been proven false. Trumps bungling response to this crisis by the left needs to be disputed because everyone directly involved has denied it. It wasn't bungled. He didn't cut the budget. The people who left task force had no effect on the response. He could of done things differently but doing those things wouldn't have necessarily had a better effect. He listend to his advisors. He tried to stay calm and reasuring. Of course the people who control the media narative dont listen to facts or truth and keep promoting the false narrative. To justify it they'll even claim that the people involved can't say anything bad or they'd be fired. Of course the people involved have denied that also but why believe them when it doesn't fit the narrative. You obviously will not agree with my premise, but again only a narcissit thinks he cant possibly be wrong and it shouldn't be debated.

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Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

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Debate as you wish, but any assertion that Trump has handled this crisis any way other than horribly stupidly and incompetently is manifestly false.

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Originally posted by: Boilerman

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Blind hatred coming once again.

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