OAN Canceled

Originally posted by: Hilbert

 

Who's trying to cancel Joe Rogan?

 

Joe Rogan is. You can't sell yourself as a mainstream podcaster on a major outlet and get caught on video saying the N word over and over. That's just stupid. Truth be told any regular person with a regular job being caught doing the same thing would have been shit canned from their job immediately. But because he is a conservative he is treated with kid gloves

 

Where was the outrage when he said the N word? As usual no problem with it until he starts saying other things that cancel culture don't agree with.

 

Hilbert, so your argument, if pulled over for speeding, would be, "Officer, how can you give me a ticket? I always speed when I drive through here and nobody made a big deal about it before."

 

He didn't have a big following back then so those comments when made flew under the radar.  And it is a problem. He chose to upload those old shows to a major platform. Visa and Mastercard control the Internet. If you are selling memberships like Spotify what they deem racist material can get your ability to process payments turned off. That is why they are deleting all of the old episodes. Spotify doesn't want to get banned from the app stores or have their ability to take payments suspended. 

 

And these statements weren't made in a private setting. These statements were part of the product he and Spotify are selling. 

Edited on Feb 8, 2022 6:42pm

     But your brain dead Biden gets a pass for doing the same thing, right?  My case in point - https://fb.watch/b2RhCSYNDE/

Edited on Feb 8, 2022 5:41pm
Originally posted by: David Miller

     Ah, the dreaded "N" word, the word used and heard everyday by Blacks. Why is it OK for Blacks to call each other the "N" word, without condemnation? I personally do not use that word because I don't like what it stands for - but I do wonder why it's usage is allowed when Blacks use it. Can anyone intelligently explain why that is? I am not trying to start an argument here (I know that some will bash me for bringing this to light), I just would like some clarification. Does anyone else see the hypocrisy? 


You want an actual explanation? I doubt that very much, but I'll do that because other people may want to know.

 

First of all, there's no "hypocrisy" involved. A racial slur is an insult directed at a member of another race, not one's own. And crucially--Black people who use this term to refer to one another do NOT mean it an an insult. That's an important distinction!

 

The adoption of the word by the Black community was part of an effort to defuse its effectiveness. If you call someone something pejorative, and that someone basically says, "yeah, fine," it weakens the term's impact.

 

If you want to read a scholarly article about the topic, you can find it on JStor by RL Kennedy (1999). Free access, though I can't get the link to post for some reason.


Originally posted by: David Miller

     But your brain dead Biden gets a pass for doing the same thing, right?  My case in point - https://fb.watch/b2RhCSYNDE/


Facebook means nothing.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Facebook means nothing.


   Really? You really are stuck on stupid.

 

Since you don't want to start an argument, I will attempt to explain as best I can with my limited experiences. I can't speak for African Americans because I am not one. Since my relationship with Baby started, my social media feeds have a lot of posts by African Americans interacting with each other in them. Here is what I have observed when the term is used between African Americans.  It is typically used in one of two ways 1. A term of endearment aimed at another African American or 2. a way to convey the subject (a person) of what you are saying or posting is another African American. A lot of times both apply to the same instance of usage. 

 

For example, a black girl might refer to her black boyfriend as my N-word among other African Americans. She is using it both as a term of endearment and a way to convey her boyfriend's racial identity. 

 

Context is the distinction.  It is not hypocritical at all. 

 

Joe Rogan wasn't using it as a term of endearment especially given the context of telling racist jokes.  

 

 

Edited on Feb 8, 2022 6:07pm

       Context matters, surely. But I have been around Blacks to know that their usage of the "N" word is utilized quite often not as an "endearment" but as a derogatory slur towards another Black when there is a disagreement or an actual fight. And if you are going to lambaste Rogan or anyone else, then how can you give a pass to Biden? --https://fb.watch/b2RhCSYNDE/

Originally posted by: David Miller

   Really? You really are stuck on stupid.

 


Whatever or wherever I may be, that doesn't affect in the slightest the simple fact that shit on Facebook is worthless and means nothing. Any opinion, all along the spectrum, from sane to completely crazy, has been expressed

 

Whatever or wherever I may be, that doesn't change one bit the fact that you're a traitor and a coward. You call people liars but when challenged to justify those accusations, you weasel away, you spineless, limp-dicked little asshole. And by the way, I don't call you stupid, because you're not. And you know that I'm not, either. To call someone stupid when they're not is, well...stupid. "Disagrees with David Miller" isn't a definition of "stupid" in any dictionary I'm aware of.

 

You're intelligent enough that you could actually engage in meaningful discussions, even with those with whom you disagree. But you seem much more interested in delivering diatribes and insults. I've never seen you actually discuss anything here. And before you descend to your tired old "YOU TOO! YOU TOO!" defense and say that I don't discuss anything, either--I actually do. In virtually every thread. So does Mark. So does PJ. For that matter, even Boiler, Charles, Tommie-poo, and the rest of the Trump gang at least try--to the extent that their limited cognitive abilities allow them to. But you never do. You just post Facebook shit, scream at and insult people, and call them liars.

 

I've tried to address you as a reasoning and thinking individual--because, as I said, neither one of us is actually "stuck on stupid." I have the sinking feeling that the tone and substance of your response will show me just how futile that effort is. I hope I'm wrong about that.

David deceptively edited videos aren't proof of anything. But suppose Biden did use that word. Is it a pattern of behavior over the course of several years like Rogan or was it a one-time thing? Everybody says something they regret from time to time but it becomes a problem when you show that you don't regret it by saying it over and over again. 

 

I'll make the same point with you I did earlier with Hilbert. Could you or I get caught doing what Rogan did on the job and expect to keep our jobs? No, our asses would be canned immediately. What conservatives are arguing is that Rogan should be given a special conservative exemption for his on-the-job misconduct. 

Edited on Feb 8, 2022 6:38pm
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