Obama/Clinton/Biden voters are back at it

kevin is incapapable of saying rioting & looting is wrong.  He always  has an "if", "but".

Shooting in the leg only works in the movies & tv.

"I also do not believe that they would have done that to a White suspect." No proof.  In 2019 there were only 2 cases where an unarmed black was killed by the police who was not in the act of committing a crime or resisisting arrest.

When whites are killed by the police, they don't start a riot

"So I understand what led to the anger and the rioting. Do I approve of it? Of course not, though some assholes here have said that I do just because I won't condemn them"

There is no excuse for rioting & looting of stores.  By not condemning them, you are condoning it & thus approving it.

The same principle holds true for people who don't condemn white supremicists.   Tom might know someone like that

By not condemning Trump's fraud, lies, and treason, you are approving of those things, Tommy-poo.

They should have done whatever their skill sets enabled them to do, deescalating the situation while avoiding killing an obviously mentally disturbed man.

If they didn't know any other option besides riddling Wallace with bullets, they were not qualified to be police officers.

That's what's behind all the various calls for police reform. People feel that the police are MUCH too inclined to use deadly force as a first resort rather than the last. That this happens much, much more often to Black suspects than to Whites suggests systemic racial bias.

Kevin Lewis opines: "The incident you just described is a perfect example of police malfeasance. They didn't need to kill the man. If you or I were approached by such a person, the prudent thing would be to run away, even if we were armed with a bigly manly GUN."

Poor old DonDiego is an old man.  Kevin Lewis overestimates poor old DonDiego's running skills.

Oh, . . . and if poor old DonDiego were to be "carrying", he would not choose a "big manly GUN", . . . almost certainly nothing above a .380 ACP.  [Anything larger would make him look fat.]

OK, walking away would do it, too. Some states have laws that mandate that people retreat from confrontations and only use violence to defend themselves as a last resort. Other states, however, are nests of gun-love and yahoo culture and have "stand your ground" laws, which means that said yahoos fantasize about the time when they'll have a "valid reason" to shoot and kill someone; bonus points if that person happens to be Black.

Most definitely agree.  Also, "just like they do in the wealthy suburbs" jumps out to point out the lopsidedness of solutions for mental illness, in the weathy suburbs vs the ghettos.   Drugs and poverty multiply each other, and our mental health systems are inadequate to keep the Mr. Wallace's of the world contained and stabalized enough that they don't go bat shit when police are called to quell a situation.  Mental illness + drugs + not keeping to one's therapeutic regimen equals a maniac with such strength that six strong cops can't hold them down. 

I've seen it.  A patient comes to ER, or is brought to ER, appears calm at first.  Suddenly the most violent outburst you could imagine, tossing furniture and nurses and doctors and security guards against the wall.  Six people can't hold him down.  Bath salts.

Not to mention that the courts and laws and judges are averse to taking away peoples' freedoms, such that it takes a concerted effort to get a 51/50, involuntary psychiatric committment of someone who is a danger to self or others.  If they get him in, he'll be medicated long enough to get calmed down, long enough they can (will to free up the bed) discharge him/her to family with prescription for meds the patient eventually quits taking (despite family efforts) and the problem starts all over again.  Maybe the meds are expensive, or more likely the side effects aren't pleasant and the patient hasn't the insight to tolerate them and keep to the appointments to return for outpatient management where providers struggle to get it right, change meds or increase dosage or whatever MIGHT work at least until the next appointment, which could be a month or more away, to which the patient has reverted back to the street drugs which make him "feel better" than the drugs for bi-polar or schizophrenia or PTSD or whatever, maybe just some really bad depression, or all four.  Likely won't return for followup.  Vicious cycle.

Just another side to the problem.

Candy

But Candy...providing the mental health services that would be needed to solve this problem would be SOOOOOCIALISM (aka sooooooocialist medicine), or providing the "free shit" that Boilerman so deplores---so how can we do that, given that the people who need such help most are the least likely to be able to pay for it?

Republican opposition to universal health care is unrelenting and fierce; plus, many people are outraged at the idea of people they consider inferior to them receiving free health care. So for the foreseeable future, at least, whether or not a person has access to medical care depends on that person's financial situation.

I'm sure you're well aware that problems such as those Wallace had could be treated and their effects mitigated if there was universal access to mental health care---including drug addiction therapies. Like physical ailments and conditions, mental health problems are best (and most cheaply) handled if they're detected early. But in the absence of available care, we don't deal with people like Wallace until they go batshit crazy.

Only dealing with mental illness when it blows up like this is like not putting oil in your car--ever--and then replacing the engine when it fails. It would be far easier and cheaper to address root causes. THAT is the fundamental refutation to the Republican "let 'em all die" philosophy--it's simply more cost-effective to have universal health care.

"The same principle holds true for people who don't condemn white supremicists. "

If pj is referring to President Trump that is another liberal lie.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/02/trump-and-white-supremacy-he-did-condemn-and-has-repeatedly-column/5883336002/

Meanwhile biden was friends with KKK leader - Robert Byrd.  His vp candidate accused him of racism; a statement she has not taken back. 

Tommy-poo, Trump has been asked repeatedly to condemn white supremacy and each time, has refused.

The man you LUVVVVV is a racist asshole. What does that say about you?