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Originally posted by: Nines

Biden dismantled a lot of Trump's policies as well. Incoming presidents from an alternate party from preceding admins routinely implement exec orders and agency changes to align with their campaign platforms and ideologies. In fact these policy reversals and changes are anticipated / expected. All of it collectively just magnifies the inability to find common ground. You're a big proponent of common ground, are ya? If so you diguise it well.


You misstate the concept. It's like asking if I'm a "proponent" of gravity. Common ground exists, and always will, and whether you or I are proponents of it matters not.

 

What does matter is whether our elected officials LIKE and WANT common ground. And it seems that they don't. And I'm sorry, but the way the Republicans speak of it is distinctly worse than the way Democrats do. That's of course because if Republicans even whisper of compromise, of anything but no-yield hard-line stances, their political careers are over. They receive 'retribution." Whereas, there are plenty of non-orthodox Democrats, and the party tolerates them.

 

Your attempted apologia for Trump doesn't pass the smell test. Yes, new Presidents implement policy reversals. Yes, Biden did that. But Trump went on a ridiculous little vengeful crusade to wipe out every single thing Obama had ever done. He didn't care, and didn't stop to consider, whether the policies he was wiping out were worth keeping in place. Other Presidents haven't tried to wipe out everything their predecessors did.

 

As two obvious examples, we have Trump's dishonorable reneging of the Iran treaty--fot no other reason than Obama had negotiated it--and his idiot asshole efforts to kill Obamacare, despite the fact that 70% of Americans approved of it.

 

So anyway, I'm a proponent of the obvious, that we have all sorts of common ground: public health, the environment, the economy, our relationships with other nations, civil rights and freedoms, the well-being of our children, etc. etc. But I'm sorry to have to I tell you that for the last 80 years, Republican policies and stances have favored corporate America at the expense of the aforesaid common ground. Our health care system is a mess, our care for the environment is deplorable (see: Trump withdrawing from the Paris accords), the economy is skewed towards enriching the already wealthy, and civil rights are being trampled upon. Those shortcomings are the deliberate result of Republican policies and ideology.

 

It didn't used to be that way. But Ronny Raygun started us on the chest-thumping AMURRICA shtick and demonized poor people as being unworthy, lazy, useless, etc. Only the rich deserved the bounty of this country. So lower taxes on the rich, let those "useless mouths" die, and let us become the plutocracy Republicans want.

 

That goal has been achieved. None of that stupid fucking common ground stuff. We have the masters (the 1%) and the masses. And only the former count for or deserve anything.

 

 

 

 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

You misstate the concept. It's like asking if I'm a "proponent" of gravity. Common ground exists, and always will, and whether you or I are proponents of it matters not.

 

What does matter is whether our elected officials LIKE and WANT common ground. And it seems that they don't. And I'm sorry, but the way the Republicans speak of it is distinctly worse than the way Democrats do. That's of course because if Republicans even whisper of compromise, of anything but no-yield hard-line stances, their political careers are over. They receive 'retribution." Whereas, there are plenty of non-orthodox Democrats, and the party tolerates them.

 

Your attempted apologia for Trump doesn't pass the smell test. Yes, new Presidents implement policy reversals. Yes, Biden did that. But Trump went on a ridiculous little vengeful crusade to wipe out every single thing Obama had ever done. He didn't care, and didn't stop to consider, whether the policies he was wiping out were worth keeping in place. Other Presidents haven't tried to wipe out everything their predecessors did.

 

As two obvious examples, we have Trump's dishonorable reneging of the Iran treaty--fot no other reason than Obama had negotiated it--and his idiot asshole efforts to kill Obamacare, despite the fact that 70% of Americans approved of it.

 

So anyway, I'm a proponent of the obvious, that we have all sorts of common ground: public health, the environment, the economy, our relationships with other nations, civil rights and freedoms, the well-being of our children, etc. etc. But I'm sorry to have to I tell you that for the last 80 years, Republican policies and stances have favored corporate America at the expense of the aforesaid common ground. Our health care system is a mess, our care for the environment is deplorable (see: Trump withdrawing from the Paris accords), the economy is skewed towards enriching the already wealthy, and civil rights are being trampled upon. Those shortcomings are the deliberate result of Republican policies and ideology.

 

It didn't used to be that way. But Ronny Raygun started us on the chest-thumping AMURRICA shtick and demonized poor people as being unworthy, lazy, useless, etc. Only the rich deserved the bounty of this country. So lower taxes on the rich, let those "useless mouths" die, and let us become the plutocracy Republicans want.

 

That goal has been achieved. None of that stupid fucking common ground stuff. We have the masters (the 1%) and the masses. And only the former count for or deserve anything.

 

 

 

 


 When I saw this long winded post I decided to see if anything being said was even remotely true. None of it was - or is. Anyone buying this load of crap is as delusional as Lewis. His latest diatribe is a last gasp attempt to cover up the sins of DemocRATs by, once again, attacking President Trump and Republicans. 

Originally posted by: David Miller

 When I saw this long winded post I decided to see if anything being said was even remotely true. None of it was - or is. Anyone buying this load of crap is as delusional as Lewis. His latest diatribe is a last gasp attempt to cover up the sins of DemocRATs by, once again, attacking President Trump and Republicans. 


You're a feeble little Trump-licker, so what you say doesn't matter.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

You're a feeble little Trump-licker, so what you say doesn't matter.


  Facts matter. You lie about and distort facts.


Originally posted by: David Miller

  Facts matter. You lie about and distort facts.


You said that everything I said was not "even remotely true." I understand where your thinking comes from. I said that we all have common ground: public health, the economy, our environment, etc. You called that a lie. You think that we're not all inhabitants of the same land and don't have common ground and common concerns. You believe that it's "every man for himself." I realize that you don't believe that we're a country; that we have a Constitution; that we have laws and rights. So when you disagree that we have common ground--I understand you, and pity you.

 

You said that my statement that Trump withdrew from the Paris accords was a lie. He did indeed do that.

 

Trump did indeed renege on the Iran treaty in 2018.

 

Much of what else I stated was my opinion. It's pretty stupid of you to say that someone's opinion is true or false. I know you like to paste the label DIS IS DA ABSOLOOT TROO TROO TROOTY TROOT on your own dogshit and the offal you copy and paste from some Fakebook rando. But that's not factual--just some sicko's opinion.

 

You dishonor yourself every time someone criticizes your orange master and you leap to his defense, like a good doggy.

 

 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

You said that everything I said was not "even remotely true." I understand where your thinking comes from. I said that we all have common ground: public health, the economy, our environment, etc. You called that a lie. You think that we're not all inhabitants of the same land and don't have common ground and common concerns. You believe that it's "every man for himself." I realize that you don't believe that we're a country; that we have a Constitution; that we have laws and rights. So when you disagree that we have common ground--I understand you, and pity you.

 

You said that my statement that Trump withdrew from the Paris accords was a lie. He did indeed do that.

 

Trump did indeed renege on the Iran treaty in 2018.

 

Much of what else I stated was my opinion. It's pretty stupid of you to say that someone's opinion is true or false. I know you like to paste the label DIS IS DA ABSOLOOT TROO TROO TROOTY TROOT on your own dogshit and the offal you copy and paste from some Fakebook rando. But that's not factual--just some sicko's opinion.

 

You dishonor yourself every time someone criticizes your orange master and you leap to his defense, like a good doggy.

 

 


 Your problem with your"facts" is you neglect to cite the reasons - all legit - for some of the actions taken and you assert that the actions taken were wrong, which they wern't. You continue to lie and distort - it is who you are. Face it, you are too delusional to comprehend the total sum of why each and every action taken is correct. All you do is look for something to twist and distort so that you can bitch about it. 

Originally posted by: David Miller

 Your problem with your"facts" is you neglect to cite the reasons - all legit - for some of the actions taken and you assert that the actions taken were wrong, which they wern't. You continue to lie and distort - it is who you are. Face it, you are too delusional to comprehend the total sum of why each and every action taken is correct. All you do is look for something to twist and distort so that you can bitch about it. 


How pompous of you to think that your opinions are the only "correct" and "factual" ones.

 

I know that there are always "reasons" when people do horrible and/or stupid things. Trump has always given "reasons" for his murders, his rapes, his thefts, his lies, and his dishonor. Hitler gave "reasons" for murdering six million Jews. And yeah, every reason is "legit"---according to the lackeys and the weak-willed. They get told what to think, and they eagerly lap it up.

 

You might be the only person remaining on earth who thinks the Turd War is "legit." Even the Turd no longer thinks so. "Each and every action taken (by Trump) is correct"?? Oh, please.

 

Your persona here is so ridiculous--absolute, total, blind loyalty to the Turd, no matter what he does--that I really don't think it's genuine. I think you're a tiny little fake.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

How pompous of you to think that your opinions are the only "correct" and "factual" ones.

 

I know that there are always "reasons" when people do horrible and/or stupid things. Trump has always given "reasons" for his murders, his rapes, his thefts, his lies, and his dishonor. Hitler gave "reasons" for murdering six million Jews. And yeah, every reason is "legit"---according to the lackeys and the weak-willed. They get told what to think, and they eagerly lap it up.

 

You might be the only person remaining on earth who thinks the Turd War is "legit." Even the Turd no longer thinks so. "Each and every action taken (by Trump) is correct"?? Oh, please.

 

Your persona here is so ridiculous--absolute, total, blind loyalty to the Turd, no matter what he does--that I really don't think it's genuine. I think you're a tiny little fake.


  Do everyone a favor - get some mental health help.

Originally posted by: David Miller

  Do everyone a favor - get some mental health help.


Why don't you just say next time, "Rats, I've lost another argument, so here's a juvenile insult to cover that up"?

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Why don't you just say next time, "Rats, I've lost another argument, so here's a juvenile insult to cover that up"?


   I prefer to tell the truth....

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