Recall PJ telling us that everything in Chicago/Illinois is wonderful

My friend moved from 1730 North Clark Street due to crime.  PJ tells us that there are no worries about crime.  PJ, I suggest that you explain that to the 105,000 people who moved from Illinois in 2021.  I suspect that by the time 2022 data is offered, the number of those fleeing the state will accelerate.

 

My brother and sister-in-law left Campton Hills, IL, an affluent far western suburb of Chicago.  Crime wasn't an issue for them 5 years ago when they moved.  They left due to ever increasing taxes and general Illinois fiscal irresponsability.  His best friend and wife left for the same reason.  Both couples now live in the Asheville, NC area.

 

$10.9 billion in adjusted gross income left Illinois in 2021.......only to be outdone by California and NY, losing $26 billion and $16 billion respectively.  Florida and Texas are enjoying the biggest increases people and wealth moving there.

 

I believe it was PJ that told us that people in California are leaving for better weather.  After all, it couldn't have anything to do with taxes, crime, and homelessness.

 

Don't worry Libs, your policies are great!

Edited on May 1, 2023 3:43am

I love how you can never argue with me without putting words in my mouth. 

 

I never said everything was wonderful in Chicago.  I jsut said there isnt a perpetual mob of angry black people who attack white people in the heart of Chicago's miracle mile and Lincoln Park area.    Because that was a bullshit narrative that you made up based upon one incident.    And you spent 30 pages backtracking your argument therafter.  And I invite everyone to go back and read that thread where you changed your story, argument and geographical location about 100 times. 

BY the way - I agree lots of people left for "no income tax" states during the pandemic when companies allowed them to leave the office and work from anywhere.    It allowed them to keep their high paying tech job while also avoid  paying income  taxes.    This was further incentivized by Republicans and the Trump administration killing SALT tax deductions in blue states.   

 

Here's the problem - Salesforce, Oracle, Apple, Alphabet, and Microsoft cant relocate their headqurters to Tampa or Houston.  Know why?  They cant get enough educated students from those trailer trash education systems to sustain their resources.    So they have to stay in those cursed liberal states that actually invest in education instead of low taxes..

 

But to the extent people can have the best of both worlds - I'm sure they will.  And if you think its a good thing that people are moving from California to Texas....you better review what happened to Colorado's politics when they all moved there 20 years ago. 

 

     

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I love how you can never argue with me without putting words in my mouth. 

 

I never said everything was wonderful in Chicago.  I jsut said there isnt a perpetual mob of angry black people who attack white people in the heart of Chicago's miracle mile and Lincoln Park area.    Because that was a bullshit narrative that you made up based upon one incident.    And you spent 30 pages backtracking your argument therafter.  And I invite everyone to go back and read that thread where you changed your story, argument and geographical location about 100 times. 


I never said that the mobs were all black youth.  Mostly black, but all woke.

 

I also never backtracked for a second.  Just because your confused about the four different neighborhoods along Lincoln park, doesn't make me backtracking.  Most of what I addressed was not white people being attacked, but instead white people being harrassed.  I'm suse PJ's news sources didn't show him the Shut Down mob that arrived a couple of weeks back at Millennium Park.

 

Anyway, here's how this discussion went months ago.  1.  I said that my friend lives on the SW corner of Lincoln Park.

2.  I later said that my friend lives in Old town.  3.  PJ claimed I was full of shit, since he apparently still believes that 1730 N. Clark Street is in "Lincoln Park" neighborhood.  It is not.  4.  I posted a link to a map showing that 1730 north clark is, in fact, on the park but also in Old Town.  5.  PJ apparently is stiff confused that the Lincoln Park neighborhood is only to the west of about 30% of the park.

 

That's okay, though.  I didn't know the difference until my friend, Steve, moved there in 1997.  His landlord is having trouble filling the vacancy due to the local violence and troubles with the organized "Shut Downs", as they are called.


Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

BY the way - I agree lots of people left for "no income tax" states during the pandemic when companies allowed them to leave the office and work from anywhere.    It allowed them to keep their high paying tech job while also avoid  paying income  taxes.    This was further incentivized by Republicans and the Trump administration killing SALT tax deductions in blue states.   

 

Here's the problem - Salesforce, Oracle, Apple, Alphabet, and Microsoft cant relocate their headqurters to Tampa or Houston.  Know why?  They cant get enough educated students from those trailer trash education systems to sustain their resources.    So they have to stay in those cursed liberal states that actually invest in education instead of low taxes..

 

But to the extent people can have the best of both worlds - I'm sure they will.  And if you think its a good thing that people are moving from California to Texas....you better review what happened to Colorado's politics when they all moved there 20 years ago. 

 

     


Yet the #1 cancer hospital and research facility in the United States is located in Houston.  My oil and gas buddy Pete's wife used to work there and his niece is a professor at the University of Texas MD Anderson........in Houston.

 

The oil and gas industry has the world's best geologists and engineers and those highly paid people happily live in Houston.  I, along with my three brothers, were all born in the great state of Texas, because my University of Illinois mechanical engineering graduate father went to work for Pure Oil in Houston in 1948.

 

Once again.........PJ is confused.

 

https://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/rankings/cancer

 

The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center is a comprehensive cancer center in Houston, Texas. It is the largest cancer center in the U.S. and one of the original three comprehensive cancer centers in the country. Wikipedia

Originally posted by: Boilerman

I never said that the mobs were all black youth.  Mostly black, but all woke.

 

I also never backtracked for a second.  Just because your confused about the four different neighborhoods along Lincoln park, doesn't make me backtracking.  Most of what I addressed was not white people being attacked, but instead white people being harrassed.  I'm suse PJ's news sources didn't show him the Shut Down mob that arrived a couple of weeks back at Millennium Park.

 

Anyway, here's how this discussion went months ago.  1.  I said that my friend lives on the SW corner of Lincoln Park.

2.  I later said that my friend lives in Old town.  3.  PJ claimed I was full of shit, since he apparently still believes that 1730 N. Clark Street is in "Lincoln Park" neighborhood.  It is not.  4.  I posted a link to a map showing that 1730 north clark is, in fact, on the park but also in Old Town.  5.  PJ apparently is stiff confused that the Lincoln Park neighborhood is only to the west of about 30% of the park.

 

That's okay, though.  I didn't know the difference until my friend, Steve, moved there in 1997.  His landlord is having trouble filling the vacancy due to the local violence and troubles with the organized "Shut Downs", as they are called.


My favorite part of that thread was when I showed you all the Google reviews that refuted your bullshit and you pretended you couldnt read them because you suddenly didnt know how the internet worked.    Good times !

 

 

Boiler, I saw that thread, and you lied and lied and lied. First your fantasy story about your imaginary friend, then your bullshit about Chicago being overrun with mobs of angry black people, then your criticism of PJ for stuff he never said.

 

You're a fucking liar, Boiler, and now you've restarted the same argument you lost so embarrassingly. Give up already.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Yet the #1 cancer hospital and research facility in the United States is located in Houston.  My oil and gas buddy Pete's wife used to work there and his niece is a professor at the University of Texas MD Anderson........in Houston.

 

The oil and gas industry has the world's best geologists and engineers and those highly paid people happily live in Houston.  I, along with my three brothers, were all born in the great state of Texas, because my University of Illinois mechanical engineering graduate father went to work for Pure Oil in Houston in 1948.

 

Once again.........PJ is confused.

 

https://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/rankings/cancer

 

The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center is a comprehensive cancer center in Houston, Texas. It is the largest cancer center in the U.S. and one of the original three comprehensive cancer centers in the country. Wikipedia


Texas has SOME smart people. After all, some smart people like to be shitkickers who watch Fox News and fantasize about shooting brown people. But as PJ pointed out, most smart young people flee Texas and won't come back. That's why Texas has no tech industry to speak of.

 

Texas is an ugly shithole populated by ugly, racist shitheads.

Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

My favorite part of that thread was when I showed you all the Google reviews that refuted your bullshit and you pretended you couldnt read them because you suddenly didnt know how the internet worked.    Good times !

 

 


Yet Chicago people are are agreeing with me, and they are walking from Chicago.  It's due to crime, intentional disruptions of people's outings, smash and rob, ever increasing taxes, plus the super long mandated business shut downs during Covid.

 

Liberals are killing the Golden Goose.  As Steve just told me, "It's not the same place."

Here's the problem - Salesforce, Oracle, Apple, Alphabet, and Microsoft cant relocate their headqurters to Tampa or Houston

 

Once again pj is wrong

 

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/2021-05-tech-office-lease-sf-twitter-salesforce-16151686.php#:~:text=Although%20it%27s%20a%20stretch%20to%20say%20that%20Salesforce,at%20a%20forthcoming%20downtown%20office%20in%20San%20Francisco.

 

Salesforce, Oracle & Uber are among those listed.

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2021/06/15/microsoft-opens-new-data-center-region.html#:~:text=Microsoft%20Corp.%20has%20opened%20a%20new%20sustainable%20data,with%20a%20presence%20in%20Goodyear%20and%20El%20Mirage.

 

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&ei=UTF-8&p=google+relocating&type=E211US1079G91652#id=1&vid=81dfa1d52c1dbd64c21057ecf6e5093b&action=click

 

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/2021/02/08/these-headquarters-have-moved-to-austin-in-2021.html

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