"The Sink" QoD for 11/13/2022

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

Mark..depends on the specifc issue, or set of issues. What is extreme? We'd have to define that, based on a given issue; those definitions would vary a bunch depending on who might be participating in the debate. One of the Freedom Caucus group's base intents  is to redistribute some power ( eg bill-forwarding for legislation) from the leadership to the rank and file members. There's merit in that  in my view, provided limitations on any real nutjob participation. Now we have to define real nutjobs, I guess. Forcing R legislative bills to the floor for a vote ought to be decided by the entire R body( the original founding intent); it often doesn't appear to work that way in reality. McCarthy has schemed for years to get the position; I have no idea if he will.

 

Yeah, the House R's are going to cripple themselves further if they involve too much infighting regarding the likely upcoming House Speakership issue. An obvious fact recently proven yet again (midterms) when legislative members / candidates cross some varying 'extreme' boundary line/s.  


Oh, come on...we've all already heard the RepubliQ definition of "extreme": it's "any policy or position espoused by Democrats." I've bet with myself--and won every time--that any RepubliQ talking head/politician/scumbag, speaking about Democratic policies, will say the phrase "extreme right-wing" within a minute of opening his yap.

 

One online dictionary states that the word means "severe or drastic, far from moderate." The etymological definition is from Latin, "in extremis," which referred to the farthest point from the center: the physical borders of Rome, or the outer perimeter of a military camp. So "extremist" is the opposite of "centrist."

 

So I think that from a sociopolitical standpoint, "extreme" would have to refer to a small number of positions--true outliers. In, say, 2010, storming the Capitol to kill everyone within would have been considered extreme; however, now, it's a central, integral part of RepubliQ policy. Denying the reality of electoral results would have been considered extreme; now, it's a fundamental part of the RepubliQ platform.

 

So maybe we'll have to expand the boundaries. When the average RepubliQ talks happily about murdering the government and screams that every election his side lost was "fake," you can no longer call those stances extreme.

 

Which, of course, makes me wonder what Joe RepubliQ does consider extreme--gunning down people waiting in line to vote? Concentration camps for nonwhite people? Blowing up churches that have Black congregations? Oh, wait, that last one has become mainstream.

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Whoa whoa whoa, weren't you the guy that always talks about courage and living up to his word?  Why are you back on this forum posting?


Jerry..I gave him a free play / credit marker on the bet recently. I figured if he was allowed to stay here he'd suffer more, ultimately.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Oh, come on...we've all already heard the RepubliQ definition of "extreme": it's "any policy or position espoused by Democrats." I've bet with myself--and won every time--that any RepubliQ talking head/politician/scumbag, speaking about Democratic policies, will say the phrase "extreme right-wing" within a minute of opening his yap.

 

One online dictionary states that the word means "severe or drastic, far from moderate." The etymological definition is from Latin, "in extremis," which referred to the farthest point from the center: the physical borders of Rome, or the outer perimeter of a military camp. So "extremist" is the opposite of "centrist."

 

So I think that from a sociopolitical standpoint, "extreme" would have to refer to a small number of positions--true outliers. In, say, 2010, storming the Capitol to kill everyone within would have been considered extreme; however, now, it's a central, integral part of RepubliQ policy. Denying the reality of electoral results would have been considered extreme; now, it's a fundamental part of the RepubliQ platform.

 

So maybe we'll have to expand the boundaries. When the average RepubliQ talks happily about murdering the government and screams that every election his side lost was "fake," you can no longer call those stances extreme.

 

Which, of course, makes me wonder what Joe RepubliQ does consider extreme--gunning down people waiting in line to vote? Concentration camps for nonwhite people? Blowing up churches that have Black congregations? Oh, wait, that last one has become mainstream.


Didn't you intend to say "extreme left-wing" phrase use by R pundits in your first paragraph?

 

Typically, you embroider and excessively exxagerate any situation in here by lumping all R's / conservatives into a single historical  basket that you ultimately and offensively set fire to. That's very 'democratic' of you. Are you an extremist? Or, alternatively, the Queen of the Universe?

Originally posted by: Jerry Ice 33

Whoa whoa whoa, weren't you the guy that always talks about courage and living up to his word?  Why are you back on this forum posting?


Hey Jerry, you got the totals? Please post them here, okay?


Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

Didn't you intend to say "extreme left-wing" phrase use by R pundits in your first paragraph?

 

Typically, you embroider and excessively exxagerate any situation in here by lumping all R's / conservatives into a single historical  basket that you ultimately and offensively set fire to. That's very 'democratic' of you. Are you an extremist? Or, alternatively, the Queen of the Universe?


Yes, oopsy, I meant left-wing. Good catch. 

 

Did I say all of you are extremists? Of course I didn't. I said that the recent behavior of conservitards has pushed the boundaries outward and redefined what "extreme" means.

 

But let me be clear--I don't make much distinction among those RepubliQ who actually commit horrific acts, those who enthusiastically support them, and those who give implied consent by remaining silent. Those who actually voice objections are a tiny, tiny minority, and usually ostracized.

Originally posted by: MisterPicture

Hey Jerry, you got the totals? Please post them here, okay?


Totals on what?  I'm talking about you saying you were not coming back to the site.  Did you somehow win that bet now so you could come back or did you not live up to your word? (sincere question)  I haven't been following all this nonsense as close as you guys do on a daily basis.  I just didn't see your stuff for days and now you are back.  

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