Socialist Tennessee makes taxpayers pay for college

Originally posted by: David Miller

   My social security monthly check was earned by paying into social security for over 50 years.Social security was set up for individuals who paid into the program, which makes the program not socialism. --https://www.havasunews.com/opinion/bruce-warner-social-security-is-not-a-socialist-program/article_21c5f69c-42b4-11ec-a442-7343f4f1a0dd.html


The average Social Security recipient receives as much money as he/she originally contributed after approximately one year. So David, who is 76, if memory serves, has been sucking up the earnings of younger, hard-working taxpayers for about ten years now.

 

SOOOOOOCIALISM!!!

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

The average Social Security recipient receives as much money as he/she originally contributed after approximately one year. So David, who is 76, if memory serves, has been sucking up the earnings of younger, hard-working taxpayers for about ten years now.

 

SOOOOOOCIALISM!!!


     Untrue. I am,not 76. The money I paid into social security has accrued interest during the years I paid into social security. The amount I curently receive comes from those monies. This is no different than money earned with a CD or a savings account. 

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Question:  Are all college loans under one umbrella?  I thought not.  Don't some come from the college, some from different grants (e.g. Pell grant), some from faith-related organizations, some from the Federal Government, any number of originating sources that the prospective student applies for a loan from?  Thus, I don't get what 'broad brush' forgiveness of a student loan is all about.  Surely some of those sources grant the loan based on the prospect of it being repaid and are counting on repayment so monies can be churned into subsequent loans for newer applicants and/or other operations?   I guess I'm dense.

 

Candy


If the gummint is involved in a student loan, the amount "carried" by the lending institution will vary, from 10% to 90%. The government essentially guarantees the rest. So rarely, if ever, would cancellation of a student lender's obligation to the government negatively affect the lender. 

 

Since the news media has a way of dumbing things down, it hasn't been explained that this isn't "loan forgiveness" at all. It's a reduction of balances of the portions of student loans that are guaranteed by the government. And they apply only to debtors who meet income guidelines.

 

Furthermore, despite the idiot conservitard rhetoric, this won't affect or cause inflation at all. It just means that money stays in the pockets of borrowers instead of going into the pockets of banks. And the amounts are relatively small anyway. A person who receives $10,000 in loan forgiveness on a balance carried at 6% simple will have his loan payments reduced by $50 a month. That's not likely to make the earth spiral into the sun.

 

 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

If the gummint is involved in a student loan, the amount "carried" by the lending institution will vary, from 10% to 90%. The government essentially guarantees the rest. So rarely, if ever, would cancellation of a student lender's obligation to the government negatively affect the lender. 

 

Since the news media has a way of dumbing things down, it hasn't been explained that this isn't "loan forgiveness" at all. It's a reduction of balances of the portions of student loans that are guaranteed by the government. And they apply only to debtors who meet income guidelines.

 

Furthermore, despite the idiot conservitard rhetoric, this won't affect or cause inflation at all. It just means that money stays in the pockets of borrowers instead of going into the pockets of banks. And the amounts are relatively small anyway. A person who receives $10,000 in loan forgiveness on a balance carried at 6% simple will have his loan payments reduced by $50 a month. That's not likely to make the earth spiral into the sun.

 

 


  The key words are "guaranteed by the government" - the "government" gets these funds from - tax payers. 


Originally posted by: David Miller

  The key words are "guaranteed by the government" - the "government" gets these funds from - tax payers. 


Just want to point out that idiot David is spreading a lie; a loan guaranteed by the government is still funds disbursed by a private lender and dies NOT entail any government expenditures unless the borrower defaults, in which case the government is liable for that portion of the loan that was guaranteed.

 

Since the vast majority of student loans are in fact repaid, the real effect of the guarantees is to enable students to take out loans for which they otherwise wouldn't qualify.

 

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Just want to point out that idiot David is spreading a lie; a loan guaranteed by the government is still funds disbursed by a private lender and dies NOT entail any government expenditures unless the borrower defaults, in which case the government is liable for that portion of the loan that was guaranteed.

 

Since the vast majority of student loans are in fact repaid, the real effect of the guarantees is to enable students to take out loans for which they otherwise wouldn't qualify.

 


https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/26/93percent-of-student-loan-borrowers-arent-prepared-to-restart-payments-survey-finds.html

Originally posted by: David Miller

   My social security monthly check was earned by paying into social security for over 50 years.Social security was set up for individuals who paid into the program, which makes the program not socialism. --https://www.havasunews.com/opinion/bruce-warner-social-security-is-not-a-socialist-program/article_21c5f69c-42b4-11ec-a442-7343f4f1a0dd.html


If you've been retired for more than two years, you are very likely spending someone else's money.  If you think you are still spending your money that you paid into the system, you are wrong.  You're spending other peoples' money--you know gov money.  If that embarrasses you that you are now sucking on the gov tit, you can renounce you SS payments.  

Originally posted by: Dealer1

If you've been retired for more than two years, you are very likely spending someone else's money.  If you think you are still spending your money that you paid into the system, you are wrong.  You're spending other peoples' money--you know gov money.  If that embarrasses you that you are now sucking on the gov tit, you can renounce you SS payments.  


        Bullshit.

Originally posted by: Dealer1

If you've been retired for more than two years, you are very likely spending someone else's money.  If you think you are still spending your money that you paid into the system, you are wrong.  You're spending other peoples' money--you know gov money.  If that embarrasses you that you are now sucking on the gov tit, you can renounce you SS payments.  


That's true, whether or not David wishes to acknowledge it. I've been surprised by how many people think the government has this giant shoebox full of all the money they paid and it'll take decades to empty it.

 

David's been a welfare queen for a decade. Other taxpayers are supporting him.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

That's true, whether or not David wishes to acknowledge it. I've been surprised by how many people think the government has this giant shoebox full of all the money they paid and it'll take decades to empty it.

 

David's been a welfare queen for a decade. Other taxpayers are supporting him.


   I have been receiving Social Secutity for 2 years - once again, you have been found to be a liar.

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