Some Casinos opened in Oklahoma this weekend.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

That's what you don't seem to understand. When you smoke in public, you destroy the right to choose of everyone around you--you force them to smoke.

 

You might be surprised that I support businesses allowing smoking. However, they should pay a substantial indemnity to the state to account for all the health costs the existence of their establishments will cause. Maybe a $50,000 annual smoking permit.


I would be okay with a business such a smoking permit fee.  Of course, Kevin also would support smokers being taxed at lower rates on social security since they die early and consume less funds.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

I would be okay with a business such a smoking permit fee.  Of course, Kevin also would support smokers being taxed at lower rates on social security since they die early and consume less funds.


But they overall place a greater burden on the health care system than healthy people do; yet, they receive the same benefits as those healthy people.

 

Also, SS benefits have never been tied to individual life expectancy. There are other conditions besides smoking that lower it. Furthermore, if we charged people who live unhealthily less, then we'd be incentivizing unhealthy behavior.

 

What we SHOULD do is tax smokers more to compensate for the extra burdens they place on the health care system. And we do that, partially, with high taxes on cigarettes.

Rocky, I've had Hosts from several casinos call or text me with info about their casinos reopening.  The Osage in Tulsa opens on the 15th of May.  The Downstream has an VIP invite for the 20th., with a public opening on the 21st. The Riverspirit opens on the 31st. The Buffalo Run is going to open before the end of May.

 

I'm not sure how soon I'm returning to the casinos.  I will mask and glove up.  It will not be business as usual.  The Downstream is installing clear barriers between dealer and players with max 3 players to the table.  Masks are available for players if you are without one. Buffet, Steak House and Buffallo Grill remains closed.  Every other floor of Hotel is closed.  Casino will close at Midnight on week nights and 2am weekends.

 

 

Cjen, you must be a higher roller than I am.  I'm leary about Osage with a lot of players that are low income. Its sounds discriminating but people who can't practice social distancing seem to be more able  to contact the Virus. I guess all the Casinos are petrie dishes. Good luck when you decide to go back!


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

But they overall place a greater burden on the health care system than healthy people do; yet, they receive the same benefits as those healthy people.

 

Also, SS benefits have never been tied to individual life expectancy. There are other conditions besides smoking that lower it. Furthermore, if we charged people who live unhealthily less, then we'd be incentivizing unhealthy behavior.

 

What we SHOULD do is tax smokers more to compensate for the extra burdens they place on the health care system. And we do that, partially, with high taxes on cigarettes.


Cigarette smokers put less burden on the SS system than non smokers.  It's a fact.  Cigarette smokes should be playing lower premiums, but we are not.  My health insurance costs more because I'm a smoker, so I already have that cost taken care of.

 

Once again, no free shit for me.

Saturday I ventured into the Osage Casino in Tulsa, Which had reopened the previous day with masses waiting in line for the doors to open.  Arriving around 5pm, One entry into the casino, thru the Parking garage.  No lines waiting to get in.  They had you walk thru a metal detector, not so much for detecting weapons but being utilized to count the number entering.  They provided mask & gloves if you wanted, I brought my own.  Saturdays are one of three days a week that is free ante on table games, that's the reason for my choosing Saturday.  All table games were closed.  Every other slot was shutdown.  all staff were donning masks.  I guessed half the patrons were masked.  No food outlet was open.  It was a busy place, with half the slots disabled, choice of machines were limited.  This is a good time to assess which machines are the most popular and which ones people are avoiding.  I was pleasantly surprised to find I was still receivng my weekly $100 in free play.  Unfortunately I was forced to play my free play in a machine I was unfamiliar with.  I recouped $21 out of a $100 free play.  I went to the cashier to get some more money, I was surprised to be told I was limited to $500 using my VIP Global card.  The explanation was that's the limit for all patrons.  I assume the policy is to get the crowd in and out to allow more players in.  

 

One of the best kept secrets in Oklahoma casinos are VGT slots, commonly labled red screens.  The best of the VGT machines are the Neptunes, IMO.  Needless to say, out of 16 Neptune slots, none were vacant. In fact all VGT slots were almost full.  The bottom line, I took the $500 from cashier cage, had to go to ATM for another $500.  Down $900, found a VGT Red Ruby, later a VGT Mr. Moneybags. and a couple of other VGT's. recouped my $900 with a $200 profit.  Thank you VGT.  

 

Left around 9pm.  There was a huge line waiting to get in.  As I walked through the metal detector I was number 4,000. 

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