Originally posted by: Nines
@ Kevin
To which specific new Trump demands are you referring? How and where did you get that information?
Iran obviously doesn't care..they continue to jeopardize their remaining few assets on a daily basis. Their long-standing "Death to Israel" and "Death to America" chants are representative of their heartfelt base ideology which is centered around Anti-Western and Anti-Zionist philosophies. In the past they chanted these phrases when their parliament convened. They're serious about it. And they may eventually be completely annihilated because of it. This current thing has evolved into an historic debacle and is well..tragic. They exhibit very little if any bend (neither does Trump, summarily) and their citizens suffer the most ( the remaining ones that their current regime hasn't murdered..as yet). Trump obviously made some concessions to arrive at the eventual MOU thing with all its vagaries ( to the point where it looked like the US gained very little if anything from the overall conflict besides military superiority), but obviously wanted more from them. I don't know WTF to expect other than more daily conflict and fluctuating gas prices here at home because of it.
The historical tentacles of this Islamic mindset goes back way before 1979 ( the so-called Iranian Revolution and the emergence of the Ayatollah); some aspects date back to BC times. In light of that, how much can / should we expect in terms of 'willingness to change' from these people? My guess is not very damned much.
I'm referring to the instructions the Turd gave to his delegation (wherever they were at the time: Switzerland, France, Pakistan, Mars; whatever), as well as his unhinged ravings on "Truth Social," in the 48 hours before Iran fired that drone. He insisted on several conditions that Iran had already said were non-starters, such as removal of all Iranian missile launchers and Iran not having a navy. There was more babble, and I just had lunch, so I don't want to go back and read it again.
As far as "new" demands are concerned, there really weren't any--just a pivot back to the Turd's original screeds when he first launched his war. Complete control of Iran. We get all their oil. Rape camps set up throughout the country. Et cetera.
In response to any complaints about how unhinged and radical the Islamic State is, I want to point out that it wasn't all that long ago that Christianity was equally fanatical and violent. I would also resist the idea that Islam itself is a kookoobird "mindset" and has been for centuries. Iran is an aberration, not the norm.
And as long as we label them "fanatical crazies," what chance is there for peaceful negotiations with them--however accurate that label may be?
