Originally posted by: David Miller
The murder of Ashley Babbitt was a violent crime, that is what I remember.
Funny you should mention that! I believe she was trying to get into Speaker Pelosi's office.
Do you know if she had a hammer with her?
Originally posted by: David Miller
The murder of Ashley Babbitt was a violent crime, that is what I remember.
Funny you should mention that! I believe she was trying to get into Speaker Pelosi's office.
Do you know if she had a hammer with her?
Originally posted by: Roger S
Looks like you changed your mind with regards to Paul Pelosi's alleged attacker, eh Kev
Not at all. I'd explain the difference to you, but you wouldn't understand.
Originally posted by: MisterPicture
Funny you should mention that! I believe she was trying to get into Speaker Pelosi's office.
Do you know if she had a hammer with her?
Babbitt wasn't murdered. She was shot by the police while attempting to COMMIT murder.
So what Davey Dog "remembers" never happened.
Based on your previous statements with regards to bail, you are a hypocrite Kev
Originally posted by: Roger S
Based on your previous statements with regards to bail, you are a hypocrite Kev
How so? I never said everyone should be granted bail, no matter what. My argument is that the primary purpose of bail is to ensure that defendants appear in court, so it shouldn't be used as premature punishment. Bail can be denied in the interest of public safety and/or a high flight risk.
This is nothing new, given the prohibition against excessive bail that is in the Bill of Rights.
Oh damn, here I am trying to explain nuclear physics to a chimpanzee.
kevin's comments from 10/22 & 10/23
Why shouldn't someone who is accused of a crime be "turned loose"? They haven't been convicted of anything yet, so how do you justify preemptively punishing them?
Keep in mind that bail isn't supposed to be punitive; it's meant to assure that the accused shows up for trial.
No, Tom, the purpose of bail isn't to "protect society from criminals" If high bail is imposed, it's because the court thinks the defendant is a flight risk, NOT because the court has a crystal ball.
The purpose of bail is to ensure court appearances without the trouble and expense of incarceration of the accused
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
How so? I never said everyone should be granted bail, no matter what. My argument is that the primary purpose of bail is to ensure that defendants appear in court, so it shouldn't be used as premature punishment. Bail can be denied in the interest of public safety and/or a high flight risk.
This is nothing new, given the prohibition against excessive bail that is in the Bill of Rights.
Oh damn, here I am trying to explain nuclear physics to a chimpanzee.
Oh I see, the "primary" purpose of bail is to insure the defendants appear in court, funny how you didn't mention that in your previous rant, funny how things change when your bullshit gets called out, you hypocrite
Originally posted by: Roger S
Oh I see, the "primary" purpose of bail is to insure the defendants appear in court, funny how you didn't mention that in your previous rant, funny how things change when your bullshit gets called out, you hypocrite
Yes, that IS the primary purpose of bail, chimp. The original discussion was about bail often being excessive. Idiot.
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
Yes, that IS the primary purpose of bail, chimp. The original discussion was about bail often being excessive. Idiot.
You got caught, you know it, and that makes you a hypocrite
Originally posted by: Roger S
You got caught, you know it, and that makes you a hypocrite
"Caught"? How, chimp?
