And not in a good way. We have 9,345 confirmed cases. Our President and our healthcare system have failed catastrophically.
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And we still don't have access to testing.
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And not in a good way. We have 9,345 confirmed cases. Our President and our healthcare system have failed catastrophically.
Source
And we still don't have access to testing.
France and South Korea never had a chance to beat us. We have Trump. They don't. He's the Tom Brady of incompetence.
Here is what isn't being said; 1). U S population = 327 million with 9410 virus cases. 2). France population = 67 million with 9054 virus cases and 3). South Korea population = 51.5 million. with 8565 virus cases. Percentage wise, the U S has fewer cases per million population. France and South Korea are light years ahead of the U S in the number of virus cases per million population. As usual, more twisting of the facts of the whole picture, as one has come to expect.
Originally posted by: David Miller
Here is what isn't being said; 1). U S population = 327 million with 9410 virus cases. 2). France population = 67 million with 9054 virus cases and 3). South Korea population = 51.5 million. with 8565 virus cases. Percentage wise, the U S has fewer cases per million population. France and South Korea are light years ahead of the U S in the number of virus cases per million population. As usual, more twisting of the facts of the whole picture, as one has come to expect.
Yes, David, I agree with you in part but... Those other places have widespread testing. We do not. Our real numbers are much higher. You still can't get a test in my state unless you are in respiratory distress to the degree that you need immediate hospitalization. Even then, there is a good chance you won't get one and they will just treat you for pneumonia. If you die without a test, they will list your COD as pneumonia.
Mark,I won't disagree with your proposed possible synopsis at this moment bacause no one really knows what the exact result will be. But I take unbridge with your original posting as to how it could/would cause one to draw an incorrect conclusion as to the number of virus cases in each country without factoring in the actual number of people in each country. That was/is just wrong, and you know it.
As of about 11 hours ago, we have tested a little less than 60k people. South Korea has tested 290,000+. All of their cases were clustered around one city. We have nationwide clusters, so proportionally we would have to test hundreds of thousands near each cluster to get accurate numbers. It seems clear to me there is no intention to test people, even when we get testing kits unless they are experiencing respiratory distress to hold our numbers artificially down for political reasons. Hence my theory they have decided to let it burn through the country unabated. So, my underlying point is we are being kept in the dark so we can't draw a correct conclusion.
Even with that effort to conceal the truth, we are likely to end up with more reported cases than any other country including China.
When this is all over, and only then, we will know just how accurate your synopsis is. Until then, I suggest that we as a nation should do whatever we must without undue and unverifyable speculation.
Originally posted by: David Miller
Mark,I won't disagree with your proposed possible synopsis at this moment bacause no one really knows what the exact result will be. But I take unbridge with your original posting as to how it could/would cause one to draw an incorrect conclusion as to the number of virus cases in each country without factoring in the actual number of people in each country. That was/is just wrong, and you know it.
It's "umbrage."
You're correct in that the only valid comparison is number of cases per capita. (The actual number of people in a given country is irrelevant--it's rate of infection that matters.) However, given the fact that we have tested only a tiny fraction of the population, we really don't know how many cases we have, since the majority of them are asymptomatic.
Two countries, one of which has applied widespread testing (for instance, South Korea) and one which has not (the US)---the latter would tend to report a lower incidence of infection. Also, the timeline for exposure is different for different countries. Asian countries were exposed first, then Europe, then the Americas. We are on a timeline vector that is closest to that already experienced by Italy and Iran. Therefore, we can expect the same trajectory as those two countries have already experienced.
I disagree with Mark's supposition that testing is now being withheld. I agree that there was deliberate inaction due to political considerations. Trump seems not to have understood how serious this crisis was/was going to be until it was almost too late. That's a direct consequence of surrounding oneself with yes-men and sycophants---no one will tell you the truth if they think you'll react badly to it. And Trump has a habit of firing people who tell him things he doesn't want to hear. The consequence was that he was misinformed. Now, he's listening to the experts.
Isn't it amazing now that the mortality rate has dropped to less than 2%, we don't get hourly updates from the Stooges.
What is amazing is that all you do is complain
