What resources are NYC and DC officials giving to illegals?

Originally posted by: MisterPicture

Resources? Did someone say resources?

 

Texas taxpayers are spending over $1,400 per passenger to send illegal immigrants to Washington D.C. As of mid-July, it had cost over $7 million, and who knows what it is now.


Texas knows from experience that illegals cost way more than $1400 per head.  It's a financial winner to send 'em to DC.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Texas knows from experience that illegals cost way more than $1400 per head.  It's a financial winner to send 'em to DC.


 Busing these illegals is probably cheaper than chartering airplanes to cities across America - in the dead of night.

They're not "illegals," idiots.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

They're not "illegals," idiots.


illegal aliens -a foreign national who is living without official authorization in a country of which they are not a citizen


I have a couple questions for all the left-leaning participants here regarding the current situation at our southern border. Is it a problem or not? Regardless of what these immigrants and their current avenues of entry might be labeled or where they end up by whatever means, do you think the current scenario we're seeing complies with current laws? Is the current situation 'fair' to those who legitimately follow / followed the rules now and in the past to attain legal entry? Does that represent an equitable situation between / among the disparate groups? Just a couple simple anecdotal inquiries from a conservative position on this issue.

 

I admire groups / individuals for making lawful and procedural attempts to improve their life situation. It's often been said this is a nation of immigrants, and there's merit in that. Under the current permissive environment, why wouldn't we expect these immigrants to overwhelm the border? Who could blame them? Yet, without structure and some semblance of corny law and order/ rules, outcomes become chaotic (and are currently, imo)...numerous national monetary aspects skyrocket ( including eventual taxation levels for tax-paying citizens)...and to me the entire situation simply represents a policy enacted to solicit / gain Democratic votes at a price for the majority of the US citizenry. And I'm stickin to that stance.

 

What say you?

 

Edited on Aug 24, 2022 10:49pm
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

 ANyone who is caught illegally crossing the boder is sent back.   Anyone who legally applies for assylum is legally allowed in and processed.  

 

Which one of those groups is does your mouthbreather Facebook feed show, David?   I confess I didnt look - but I'm 100% positive its not the latter.   Tell me I'm wrong.   


How many of these illegals show up for their assylum hearing?

Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

I have a couple questions for all the left-leaning participants here regarding the current situation at our southern border. Is it a problem or not? Regardless of what these immigrants and their current avenues of entry might be labeled or where they end up by whatever means, do you think the current scenario we're seeing complies with current laws? Is the current situation 'fair' to those who legitimately follow / followed the rules now and in the past to attain legal entry? Does that represent an equitable situation between / among the disparate groups? Just a couple simple anecdotal inquiries from a conservative position on this issue.

 

I admire groups / individuals for making lawful and procedural attempts to improve their life situation. It's often been said this is a nation of immigrants, and there's merit in that. Under the current permissive environment, why wouldn't we expect these immigrants to overwhelm the border? Who could blame them? Yet, without structure and some semblance of corny law and order/ rules, outcomes become chaotic (and are currently, imo)...numerous national monetary aspects skyrocket ( including eventual taxation levels for tax-paying citizens)...and to me the entire situation simply represents a policy enacted to solicit / gain Democratic votes at a price for the majority of the US citizenry. And I'm stickin to that stance.

 

What say you?

 


You are presenting the same tired, strawman argument that every Republican has presented for the last 30 years- "Democrats want open borders".  Check please.

 

Democrats have long supported a comprehensive immigration reform policy that includes more border securty, more worker tracking, crackdowns on illegal hiring, increased security of cargo and containers, advanced satelite border monitoring, and last but not least - a pathway to citizenship for all the people who've been here for 10 years working and staying out of trouble.      Unfortunately they need 60 votes in the Senate to implement it.  

 

Your leaders were able to implement the policy they've been touting for the last 2 decades - "Build a wall"   Mic drop.    How did that work out?   How is it that after the big wall was built we somehow have these issues at the border and its somehow the fault of the people who didnt market that solution?   Take some accountability for your own leadership and their failures.

 

But thanks for spelling out your true motivations in your last paragraph.   YOur objections to the border have nothing to do with immigration - you're just scared of the resulting politics and voting dynamic of those people once they gain citizenship.   Here's an idea - have your party stop shitting on  them and you might earn their votes.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

How many of these illegals show up for their assylum hearing?


There you go again - calling them "illegals".    The ones who dont show up would fit that description.   And you know what would fix that?  A comprehensive immigration reform package.   You what didnt fix it?  Your big wall that you've been celebrating for the last 5 years

 

thanks for stopping by

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

They're not "illegals," idiots.


Come from Kevin, who tells us that a bee is a fish.  You have zero credibility with sensible people.

@PJ Stroh...You think the border situation isn't a problem, then. You think it's all kosher...that the current permissive attitude is all about some supernatural level of compassion and level of concern for those crossing the border at an unprecedented level. You strongly suggest that there's no underlying political motivation whatsoever behind the current administration's stance on this issue. I flat disagree with you on that, and that's the end of it. 

 

Further, it wouldn't matter if the wall was 150 feet  tall and 6 feet thick, the ongoing permissive attitude from the current administration and the associated lack of enforcement renders any physical barrier as useless. Your ' mic drop' comment about the wall being built ...it's not complete, no matter how you present it  (and again that doesn't matter without enforcement attitudes / protocols).  And you're correct in your assessment of my original 'tired..strawman' stance..I'm tired of my own argument. Part of that argument lies with enforcement of existing laws..I don't think that's occuring. And yes, my party has screwed some things up as well..daily and currently. I'm tired of the grand majority of those reps as well.

 

We disagree..big deal.

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