What resources are NYC and DC officials giving to illegals?

Where did I say the border situation isnt a problem?    I would love nothing more than to put forwad the comprehensive immigration solution I mentioned to address it...including walls where it makes sense.     

And here's a fun fact for you - the majority of illegal immigrants access the UNited States the same exact way you access Mexico....with a passport.   They come in legally with their passport and never go home.   And the wall stops those people  from coming to AMerica about  as well as it stops you from visiting Cancun.

If you are serious about fixing the immigration problem you need to see it for the complex issue it is...its not just the nightly Tucker Carlson panic-porn you see  of people running accross the border.

The 1m+ getaways, the thousand or so posing as children & the criminals didn't have passports.  If all these people are asylum seekers why are they paying the cartels to sneak them in?

The squad can't answer these question as well as the problem since the border patrol spends so much manpower with the illegal crossings, they don't have the ability to look for drugs that kills thousands. 

The conservitard outrage about immigrants is based on race hatred and an extravagant self-soaking in "replacement theory." Like so much RepubliQ ideology, it's based on irrational fear.

The reason for our lax enforcement of immigration laws is simple--rigorous enforcement would be brutally difficult, impractical, and expensive. PLUS...it would be extremely harmful economically. We have low food and other commodity prices because of the ready availability of cheap labor. Also, immigrant/temporary workers pay FAR more into the US Treasury than they take out (for instance, how many will even collect Medicare or Social Security?). Did you know that SS would already be in deficit if not for the contributions of temporary/guest workers?

So the "permissive attitude" you decry stems from the fact that free cross-border travel is the superior option, but the conservatives have to be appeased. As with all compromises, formal and informal, both sides hate it at least a little.

We know that a completely "open border" policy would work (and no, conservitards, we don't have that now). How? Look at the EU. And if you're interested, look up how much money they've saved by removing border controls.

This is the point in the argument where conservitards pivot to "they're all drug smugglers and criminals" and "they're just here to have 'anchor babies.'." Which is nonsense. They're here to work and build a better life. Many of them are trying to support family back home. Conservitards consider that praiseworthy only, I guess, when white people do it.

It's really a shame that we spend so much time and effort (and ink, and bandwidth) on this issue that shouldn't be an issue at all, and by that I don't mean we should install minefields and machine-gun towers all along the border.

@Kevin...You never witnessed my labeling of all immigrants as ' drug smugglers and criminals'; I suspect the grand majority are attempting to improve their life situation and, whether you believe it or not, I empathize with that with sincerity.  I'm a large exception to your group labeling of all conservatives as race haters..I take exception to that in particular. I make mistakes...just not that one. Another exception I hold regarding your comments is the harboring of irrational fear as a main basis for conservative ideology...I certainly disagree.

@PJ Stroh...You don't have the power, technological knowhow, nor sand to know if I watch Tucker Carlson panic-porn on a nightly basis or not, do ya? Tell the truth. You just lump all conservatives who might disagree with your personal issue stances as blind nonthinking idiots who are unaware of the world around us..as if you are sitting on a cache of unbending attitudinal positions all of us should ascribe to. I won't do that ( and you won't either), but I think we can disagree on issues and not assign some suggestively degrading and all-encompassing label to opponents because of policy differences. You can have your space..allow me to have mine. The debate is important, as we both realize that in the end on many of these issue divides that to effect any meaningful solutions, some form of compromise has to ensue. Some give..some take..from all participants. I hope for that but it's very difficult under the current conditions..maybe it's always been that way. This general philosophy sonnet is over ( and we're both happy about that).

Vote..we'll see where the next chips fall.

     Nice post Charles. I am curious to see how effective your sensible content is going to be received.

Charles Higgins, I certainly wouldn't lump you in with all conservatives and Republicans, but we know who they voted for, don't we? A president who accused most Mexican immigrants of being smugglers and rapists, and one who wanted to disqualify a Mexican-AMERICAN judge because of his race.

That you identify with conservatives and Republicans already says a lot about you. If you're not shamed then you are not paying attention.

 Picture - you love to lie about actual comments by changing or adding to the content of you posts.  There is a difference in saying "most" and "many". And no where in this comment did he accuse the immigrants as being smugglers. -This is what he said, --“What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc.” –Trump, statement about his June 16 comments, July 6, 2015

You're right in a sense--I view conservatism as a fundamentally unsound philosophy in a rapidly changing world. But you may not know that a heightened fear response (compared to the overall population) is a salient feature of self-described conservatives, to the point where the correlation is almost perfect. So it obviously goes deeper than politics. That's what's behind irrational conservative race hatred--which is real and prevalent whether you wish to acknowledge it or not; a change in the racial makeup of the people around you is profound and unsettling, especially for those who have an inherent dislike of change.

And since fear is one of the strongest human emotions, and a great motivator, stoking fear has always been a really, really swell way to get votes. Worked for Hitler; worked for Trump; works for the RepubliQ now (I'll mention Godwin's Law here so you don't have to).

You seem like a reasonable person, which puts you in sharp contrast with the gang of wackadoodle conspiracy theory-licking Trump-loving everybody-hating conservative crazies we have here. In particular, your apparent ability to form and articulate a coherent thought distinguishes you from our resident Con gang. So if you don't want to be included under that umbrella, I can respect that.

I also recognize that there are valid and worthy of respect conservative values. It's sad that those values have gotten drowned in an ocean of virtue signaling, ideological purges, and "loyalty" tests.

Trump was completely full of shit when he said that, as there is not a single documented instance of Mexico forcing any of its citizens to leave Mexico.

This has been a conservitard meme ever since Trump bellowed it, but it's absolutely untrue.

Also, immigrant/temporary workers pay FAR more into the US Treasury than they take out (for instance, how many will even collect Medicare or Social Security?).

Not if they get paid in cash.  Their children get a free education, get additional educational services if needed, free medical care.  If one wants to immigrate into the country, do it legally, not in the back of a truck or swimming.

We know that a completely "open border" policy would work (and no, conservitards, we don't have that now). How? Look at the EU

Another false statement.  In order to enter the EU from outside the EU, one needs a passport

In 2015, Hungary built a border barrier on its border with Serbia and Croatia. The fence was constructed during the European migrant crisis (see timeline), with the aim to ensure border security by preventing illegal immigrants from entering, and enabling the option to enter through official checkpoints and claim asylum in Hungary in accordance with international and European law.The number of illegal entries to Hungary declined greatly after the barrier was finished as it effectively abolished the entry to Hungary.[