Who should we listen to

Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker

But, but Kevin, Governor Cuomo was just on tv today stating that the Trump drug seems to be working!

And, and Dr Oz is actively prescribing it and many many others.


If this drug that Trump is touting actually works, I would be happy to view it as a tiny sliver of atonement for the thousands of deaths Trump has caused and will caused.

 

I never said he couldn't do anything right. Sheer random chance means that even an utterly stupid and evil man such as Trump can accidentally do something smart or good.

How delightful seeing Kevin eating his own lying, hateful words.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Many 'real doctors" are Trumpers.

 

I'm all in favor of this treatment IF IT WORKS, and by "works," I mean is shown to effectively treat Covid-19 in rigorous clinical trials. We're not even remotely close to that point yet.

 

Ordinarily, Trump's crowing about it would make as little difference as most of his boasting does. But here, there's the potential for active harm. The drug is used to treat a number of serious conditions, such as lupus. A Trump-fueled frenzy for the drug--buck-toothed MAGAheads holding up pharmaceutical delivery trucks with shotguns--would cost the lives of the people who already depend on the drug.


Kevin, my X wife is an Eli Lilly biochemist and has been so for some 37 years.  Do you realize how long "rigorous" testing takes?  This thing will have run it's course by the time rigorous testing is complete, with a certain death of hundreds of thousands or more.  For decades this drug has been used for other illnesses and conditions with very few and very little side effects.  I suggest that a prudent person consider the risk/reward of saving lives vs rigorous testing of a drug that we know is safe to consume.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

If this drug that Trump is touting actually works, I would be happy to view it as a tiny sliver of atonement for the thousands of deaths Trump has caused and will caused.

 

I never said he couldn't do anything right. Sheer random chance means that even an utterly stupid and evil man such as Trump can accidentally do something smart or good.


Ahh.This must be the drug that the village idiot and his spawn own stock in.


King, the testing of this drug is being done by organizations which are independent of the federal government.  Is you hatred so deep that can't and won't consider the potential benifit of the drug?

Originally posted by: bbking

Ahh.This must be the drug that the village idiot and his spawn own stock in.


Sorry BB, this drug patents expired years and years ago. It is made by several pharma companies. Unless Trump has investments in several companies he has no advantage to this claim.

 

 

Originally posted by: rdwoodpecker

Sorry BB, this drug patents expired years and years ago. It is made by several pharma companies. Unless Trump has investments in several companies he has no advantage to this claim.

 

 


The advantage that Trump hopes to gain is being able to crow that he has saved the world.

 

Do you really think he cares about saving lives?

 

Do you really think he cares about anything other than his reelection chances?

 

Remember, this scumbag strained and grunted to take healthcare away from twenty million Americans.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

King, the testing of this drug is being done by organizations which are independent of the federal government.  Is you hatred so deep that can't and won't consider the potential benifit of the drug?


I already posted that I would welcome it if it indeed proved helpful.

 

However, as you're a thoughtless pig who smokes in public and is proud of it, I doubt very, very much that you care even one tiny bit about the health of your fellow citizens. You're a filthy hypocrite.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Kevin, my X wife is an Eli Lilly biochemist and has been so for some 37 years.  Do you realize how long "rigorous" testing takes?  This thing will have run it's course by the time rigorous testing is complete, with a certain death of hundreds of thousands or more.  For decades this drug has been used for other illnesses and conditions with very few and very little side effects.  I suggest that a prudent person consider the risk/reward of saving lives vs rigorous testing of a drug that we know is safe to consume.


If your wife is a biochemist, then she could tell you that just because a given medication has been used to treat other illnesses and conditions, that has no bearing whatsoever on whether it can be used to treat a new illness or condition---even a quite similar one.

 

That's why there must be rigorous trials. It would be foolhardy to have everyone pop the Trump pills and then stand back and see what happens. There's no guarantee that it would be harmless.

 

But if those trials are begun immediately, there will be data that show whether the drug should be fast-tracked or the initiative should be abandoned. And yes, there is already a practice called "compassionate use," whereby a drug that hasn't been FDC-approved can be given to desperately ill patients.

 

What I personally would NOT want to see is some Fox News-fed narrative that says Trump's magic pill will cure you, so everybody stops social distancing and whatever progress we've made in slowing this down is destroyed.

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