10,000 dollars found and return, what would you do

If you invite me, Snidely, I'll laugh at all of your jokes. I reaaly, really wanna go cause I'm kinda sweet on Karen.
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
I don't think you know what 'intangible' means. That's ok. It's a big word.
I'm a patient person, I'll indulge your feigned ignorance for a bit.

Cash is intangible property just as checks, certificates of deposit, IOUs, and stock certificates are intangible property.

That their value is memorialized on printed paper does not make them tangible like a car, boat, or house. Their value is intangible.

When a buyer gets the deed to a house, the deed is not tangible property: the house is. The deed is intangible property, evidence of ownership, not the item owned itself.

Cash serves the same function. It is the physical representation of the nation's finite money supply, with value by government decree, not an intrinsic worth.
Cash is tangible. Well, to me it is. You turn it in. You're not invited to my party anyways. You have a stick up your ass.
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Originally posted by: oobiedoobie
If you invite me, Snidely, I'll laugh at all of your jokes. I reaaly, really wanna go cause I'm kinda sweet on Karen.


Ok. You're in.

Sorry,can't help but LMAO 'cause chill is wrong AND annoying once again!
Oh and BTW re,the question...hmmm..i'm not sure,ten grand..in cash..no ID..I'm not sure,but sure would like to be presented the option.
Even on the rare occasion when chil is right, he is still annoying.
"10,000 found and return, what would you do?"

I submit that no one REALLY knows what they would do until they are in that specific situation. It is so easy to say, "I would do this or that" but reality is harder. I have been in some challenging, and sometimes dangerous situations, due to my ex (which I do not want to explain) but I know that what we "think" we will do can be different than what we actually "do".

The same with a large amount of cash. Many years ago, I was at Disneyland watching the night parade with my kids and stepped on a huge, FAT wallet. I picked it up, but did NOT look to see how much $ was in it...frankly, I did not want to tempt myself. I knew that if I looked and saw tons of cash, I might not do what I morally wanted to do. I looked around and saw a Disneyland Security officer and gave it to him. I do not know if he was honest, I do not know how much of that fat wallet made it to Security....but all I know is that I did the right thing (in my mind). I kept thinking of some family who's vacation would become miserable with the loss of the money, ID, credit cards, etc.

So...that's my take....and I truly don't know what I would do if I found $10000 cash, but I hope it would be the morally/ethically right thing.

Snidely333, if that makes me a partypooper, I'm sorry....but I hope I can still come to your party! (if you have long-island iced teas, I guarantee I'll become a LOT less of a partypooper! Just ask DonDiego....lol)
Hmm, . . . is cash tangible property or intangible property?

Well, . . . a quick trip around the internet suggests that the question is not entirely settled.

Over at PacAccountants.com they note that International Accounting Standards (IASs) define the term "intangible asset" but fail to define the term "tangible asset".
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An intangible asset is an identifiable non-monetary asset without physical substance.

This definition describes three main characteristics of an intangible asset which are as follows:
__It must be identifiable i.e. we can distinguish between one asset and the other
__It is a non-monetary asset i.e. other than cash and cash equivalents
__It is without physical substance
Looking at the definition of Intangible asset we can confirm that Cash is NOT an intangible asset as IASs has explicitly excluded it from its definition.
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Elsewhere, for example on Wikipedia there is this comment within an extended definition of "tangible property":
"A unique category of property is money, which in some legal systems is treated as tangible property and in others as intangible property. Whilst in most countries legal tender is expressed in the form of intangible property ('The Treasury of Country X hereby promises to pay to the bearer on demand....'), in practice bank notes are now rarely ever redeemed in any country, which has led to bank notes and coins being classified as tangible property in most modern legal systems."

Meanwhile over at answers.google.com there's a discussion over the meaning of tangible property, and a distinction between "tangible property" and "tangible personal property" with specific reference to probate matters.
One conclusion:
"Cash used to be classified as an intangible (a piece of paper that could be exchanged for a specific amount of gold, having value only because everyone agrees to the exchange rate). Now most legal systems classify it as tangible, since money is rarely exchanged for gold.
A bank account holding the cash would be intangible."

Oh wait! The Court somewhere in Indiana also has an opinion, documented at justia.com.
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The question presented by this appeal is whether U.S. currency is "tangible" or "intangible" personal property within the meaning of an Indiana statute that places some of the property of a bankrupt or other judgment debtor beyond the reach of his creditors.
<lots of legal gobbledy gook>
. . . Our analysis points to classifying cash as intangible property. . . . If as Oakley argues $4000 in cash but not in a bank account is exempt, debtors in Indiana who face collection actions will be quick to convert their bank accounts to cash, a danger recognized by the Indiana Supreme Court in a related context in In re Zumbrun, supra, 626 N.E.2d at 455. They are less likely to convert cash to furniture or clothes that they don't need as much as they need the cash.
<more gobbledy gook>
. . . Because money in whatever form; whether cash or an invisible, a disembodied, financial asset; is a medium of exchange rather than a useful good (with the irrelevant exception of money that has become a collector's item), it is what creditors want to levy on. Clothes, furniture, and other personal possessions are useful goods that are indispensable (up to a point; but remember that the exemption for tangible property is modest) to the debtor but of little value to creditors, who would have to convert them to money to recover their loan and would incur heavy transaction costs, relative to the value of the goods, in the process.
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i.e. Money is intangible property.

n.b. All boldface above added by DonDiego

CONCLUSION
DonDiego would suggest cash is, in fact, tangible property, . . . as in modern society it no longer, e.g.since 1974 in the USA, represents a claim on a specified quantity of gold or silver, . . . because it is recognized as a medium of exchange in-and-of itself.
Nonetheless, DonDiego recognizes Officers of the Courts and Legislators may classify cash as they wish for purposes of maximizing/minimizing claims of whichever creditors, Governments, debtors, or other claimants are in-favor/out-of-favor.

It's a nasty world out there. DonDiego avoids it as much as he can.
For purposes of its Unclaimed Property Act, Nevada like most states has decided to define money as property.

And nothing is more money than cash.

What one shoud when finding a pile of it is a matter of conscience. But what one must do is a matter of law. And in Nevada, you gotta turn it in, or be prepared to bunk with OJ.
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