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I don't understand why Obama had to open his mouth about this case after all the dust had cleared. Let the topic just die and go away.
Obama was for stand your ground type laws in individual states before he was against them as the POTUS.
2004 State Senator Obama on self defense
Oh god, now BobOrme is citing the Moonie Times. What's next, the Scientology Gazette?
No, the law that State Senator Obama voted for dealt with self-defense, not stand your ground. And here's the proof: The law passed unanimously, yet according to this widely cited New York Times map, Illinois is NOT a stand your ground state. So peddle your cult fiction somewhere else Bob.
I wrote Obama co-sponsored
stand your ground type laws. Self defense and stand your ground and make my day laws all deal with self defense. Illinois law is not Castle Doctrine. Martin would not need to be breaking into Zimmerman's home for Zimmerman to use lethal force in self defense.
Illinois state law:
(720 ILCS 5/Art. 7 heading)
ARTICLE 7. JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE; EXONERATION
(720 ILCS 5/7-1) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-1)
Sec. 7-1. Use of force in defense of person.
(a) A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or another against such other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or another, or the commission of a forcible felony.
(b) In no case shall any act involving the use of force justified under this Section give rise to any claim or liability brought by or on behalf of any person acting within the definition of "aggressor" set forth in Section 7-4 of this Article, or the estate, spouse, or other family member of such a person, against the person or estate of the person using such justified force, unless the use of force involves willful or wanton misconduct.
(Source: P.A. 93-832, eff. 7-28-04.)
Your first paragraph is from the original 1961 law, when Barack Obama was about two years old. I don't think he was involved in writing it. The second paragraph relates to civil, not criminal law.
Your first clue that your claim was bogus was that it came from the Moonie Times. My first clue that it was bogus was that you linked to it.
