DC Federal Appeals Court Kills Obamacare Read it and weep

First off a couple of qualifications. 1. Obama has asked for an En Banc review which means all of the judges currently sitting on that circuit court will review this decision of the 3 judge panel. If the majority agree with the decision it will be final binding law on that Circuit. 2. Four hours after this ruling the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals issued a ruling that contradicted with this ruling.

What this all means is that assuming the En Banc DC Circuit approves their three panel decision the Circuits are in conflict creating an issue that the Supreme Court will decide. Given the recent privately held for profit corporations have religious freedom decision coming out of there I don't think it is too hard to figure out that they will likely affirm the ruling coming out of the DC Circuit.

As a practical matter what it means is there will be no more subsidies for people buying health insurance in the States that have opted to go with the Federal Exchange system (36). It will also mean people that have enrolled in Obamacare and have received premium subsidies will have to pay them back unless there is some sort of congressional fix (unlikely). So several million people could be getting $10k-25k bills from the IRS at the end of the year depending on the amounts of their premium subsidy.
The lies spoken by Obeyme are becoming readily apparent for those who voted for and defended this liar. No, you can't keep your Doctor. Yes, your insurance rates have increased, some doubled or tripled. No, you won't get your insurance payments paid for (subsidized) by others who work for their money. Just more "change you can believe in". Don't many of you who voted for this liar feel you have been violated? You should because you and every American citizen have been. Stay tuned for more of the same.
DonDiego fears malibber2 is celebrating prematurely.

See recent thread "Obamacare 2014 - Part Deux" for details
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Originally posted by: malibber2
First, I wrote a really dishonest title.
Fixed!


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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: malibber2
First, I wrote a really dishonest title.
Fixed!


And for my next trick I'm going to paint funny mustaches on all the photos on the LVA

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Originally posted by: malibber2
It will also mean people that have enrolled in Obamacare and have received premium subsidies will have to pay them back unless there is some sort of congressional fix (unlikely). So several million people could be getting $10k-25k bills from the IRS at the end of the year depending on the amounts of their premium subsidy.

This will never happen even if the ruling stands. The citizens made a good faith effort to sign up for insurance as mandated by law. They shouldn't be retroactively penalized for congress's blunder. It's like an ex post facto law.
Amazingly enough, I agree with Malibber.


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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: malibber2
It will also mean people that have enrolled in Obamacare and have received premium subsidies will have to pay them back unless there is some sort of congressional fix (unlikely). So several million people could be getting $10k-25k bills from the IRS at the end of the year depending on the amounts of their premium subsidy.

This will never happen even if the ruling stands. The citizens made a good faith effort to sign up for insurance as mandated by law. They shouldn't be retroactively penalized for congress's blunder. It's like an ex post facto law.


While I think that is the conventional wisdom, I wouldn't count on it. I think the "carrot" argument is a pretty strong one regardless of the plaintiffs' motives.

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DonDiego expects the full D.C. Court of Appeals will reverse the three-judge panel, . . . in agreement with the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit decision which followed the D.C. Court of Appeals decision by hours. Hours ? Almost like they knew something.
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Amazingly enough, I agree with Malibber.


That makes me more confident I'm right.

Isn't it a wonder that more problems keep coming up to humiliate Mr. Obama. But this issue really isn't that bad, considering how many low-life Medicaiders there's been added who get everything for free. I hear he's giving a speech to them during his 16-day "escape from the horrors of reality" on Martha's Vineyard.
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