Gambler sues, claims he was blackout-drunk when he lost $500,000

I don't think I've ever heard chily use the word "snap" .at least not up until I put him on ignore, however forky has used it (snap) on a few occasions.

Chili claims to be a lawyer. Judging by how jilly quotes law and makes the same cutesy replies (at least in her opinion), I'm still believing there is a good chance they are the same.

Even I don't think Forkie would stoop to posting under two identities.

. . . or three?

Someone mentioned that a marker is not a loan. I totally agree.

I had marker privileges when I used to go to Biloxi, and they would be held 30 days. They were "checks" as far as I was concerned, and went through my bank as a check.

So now I am 'curious' how a post dated check can, could, and should be prosecuted. Seems like the same thing as an IOU to me.

The date on a check has no legal relevance. You do bring up a good point, though, in that this guy is so stupid that he doesn't have bankers who will put the kibosh on the checks. That's completely punk.

His lawyer looks to be the same type of opportunist. The gambler probably has some sort of psychological problem that's at the root of all this drama.

I don't care if you call it "applesauce," a marker meets every definition of a loan. It's remarkable that some jurisdictions give gambling loans a special cut-out, calling for criminal enforcement.

I have no sympathy for those who welsh on a marker, because they are usually very stupid and very weak. But the idea that bank, personal, and government loans should somehow be less enforceable than casino loans is absurd.

"Playing on credit is out of the ordinary." Seriously?

Casino companies darn well know what their legal rights and obligations are. Look how strict they are concerning the legal age to gamble. They serve liquor generously, which they would never do if it was possible for the player to recover losses based on being liquored up. They will on occasion escort a player out the door who is seriously disturbing operations (drunk or sober), but that's to protect customers and property and has nothing to do with protecting an idiot from himself.

The guy needs to sign on with AA and get over himself.

Yes. You're right about all that. It's what happens politicians care more about their benefactors than doing what's right.

If drunks were not allowed to gamble LV would be a ghost town.

Many years ago, (late 70's) I accepted a post dated check as payment for a backgammon game in lieu of an "IOU". Several hundred dollars, a significant sum in those days. More than my monthly apartment rent and utilities at the time.

The following week, after the date on the check, the bank would not honor it, claiming insufficient funds.

I tried several times over the next few weeks to cash it to no avail. Friendly efforts to contact the person who wrote it for restitution led to calls and messages not being returned, broken promises, and lies.

A 'friendly' detective working fraud told me that because it had been post dated, it was not considered a crime. A 'friendly' Assistant DA said the same thing, basically that they would not prosecute, and my only legal recourse was to sue in court. Of course, before doing that, I would need to send certified letters, etc.

I heard from others that 'his' checks had bounced. He had not been seen 'out and about' recently. Intentionally avoiding people he owed money too. Still had the same employer, 'good' job, etc.

A friendly teller I'd dated told me the balance in that account. I than deposited some cash ( about $50) into that account, and immediately cashed the check for several hundred.

Of course, things were different than. Banking was more lax. Information available if you knew who and how to ask, etc.

My point is that personal experience, although ancient history so to speak, leads me to believe that a post dated check is considered an IOU by the law (Florida anyway), and is not criminally enforceable under the bad check laws, etc.

Of course, MY interpretation includes the casino knowingly accepting a post dated check in lieu of cash and that they will hold it for XX days before depositing it.

At that point, it becomes a promise to pay, and an instrument to make it easier, but still, it is only an IOU.

Now, I do know that we read, or hear stories of people not honoring markers and being imprisoned.

"Debtor's Prison" is, I thought, no longer legal in the USA.

Far as I'm concerned, tough luck casino.