Good News on Global Warming . . .

Let's examine the data ...

-The global temperature trend has been flat for almost 17 years.
-All major global data sets show cooling since 2005 (or before).
-Global sea ice has returned to normal for most of 2013.
-No increases in any extreme weather events are seen in long term data.
-Without adjustments the SLR has been decelerating.

The only way to explain the recent lack of warming is to try and factor in natural climate factors. However, once that is done it becomes apparent that those natural events were behind most of the warming of the late 20th century. A Pacific ocean cycle known as the PDO provides an index for ENSO variability. This cycle was in its warm mode from 1975-2005 and the switch to global cooling occured right when the PDO flipped into cool mode.

When the ENSO variability is taken into account the amount of warming due to GHGs is significantly reduced. In fact, all that is left is about .05C/decade. With this in mind we could expect at most around .4C of additional warming by the year 2100. Why would any intelligent society waste trillions solving a non-problem?

But it gets worse ... the planet has been warming for over 300 years. Long before any significant GHG emissions. If this warming continued through the late 20th century then ALL of the warming is explained and nothing is left for GHGs.

Finally, a reduction in sun spots during recent solar cycle 24 may be a harbinger of things to come. Many solar scientists are predicting a repeat of the Maunder Minimum which lasted many decades and saw substantial cooling back in the 17th century. Should this repeat it could be disastrous for agriculture without the added CO2 we have been adding for decades. The CO2 could actually save millions (if not billions) of lives.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Just in case anyone's unsure, the link Don Diego posted was not to a new story reported by the Wall Street Journal, as he clearly hoped we'd think, but an opinion article by a zoologist.

FWIW.


In this case your opinion is not worth a plug nickel. If that's the best you have then you should consider keeping quiet. Many of the lead authors of the IPCC do not have degrees in "climate science". In fact, climate science is a relatively new field and most colleges did not have degree programs prior to this century. Not only that, but climate really isn't much of s science in and of itself. It is basically a combination of several other fields. The true experts exist in the other fields and, not unsurprisingly, many of them do not agree with the claims of climate Armageddon.

Sorry if this interferes with your religious beliefs.

I just want to know when hundreds of millions to billions of dollars are available in grants, if that hasn't swayed some scientists to believe in global warming?
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Originally posted by: arcimedes
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Just in case anyone's unsure, the link Don Diego posted was not to a new story reported by the Wall Street Journal, as he clearly hoped we'd think, but an opinion article by a zoologist.

FWIW.


In this case your opinion is not worth a plug nickel. If that's the best you have then you should consider keeping quiet. Many of the lead authors of the IPCC do not have degrees in "climate science". In fact, climate science is a relatively new field and most colleges did not have degree programs prior to this century. Not only that, but climate really isn't much of s science in and of itself. It is basically a combination of several other fields. The true experts exist in the other fields and, not unsurprisingly, many of them do not agree with the claims of climate Armageddon.

Sorry if this interferes with your religious beliefs.
I appreciate being given the opinion of a zoologist on earth's atmospheric trends. They tend to live on earth too, why not.

Maybe next we'll get the opinion of a barber.

Or maybe even a nose tackle! I bet a nose tackle would have an opinion on man-made CO2's impact on agriculture, health, and environment! Get a nose tackle!


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Originally posted by: arcimedes
...Many of the lead authors of the IPCC do not have degrees in "climate science". In fact, climate science is a relatively new field and most colleges did not have degree programs prior to this century. Not only that, but climate really isn't much of s science in and of itself. It is basically a combination of several other fields...
After being humiliated on more than one occasion, arcimedes is no longer providing links for his claims. I can't blame him.

My favoritest time was when arcimedes expert on climate change was:
  • a TV weatherman
  • with a high school diploma!
  • who was funded by the Exxon funded Heartland Institute
  • which had previously argued against the harmful effects of smoking on behalf of Phillip Morris.

    I don't expect to see any links from arc on the subject real soon. I guess we'll all have to just trust him.

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    Originally posted by: pearlguy
    DD for President


    I'll second that!
    The actual IPCC report was announced today in anticipation of its publication Monday. Contrary to the predictions of climate change denialists and a zoologist, the report is described as devastating.

    ++++++++++++++

    STOCKHOLM (AP) — Scientists now believe it's "extremely likely" that human activity is the dominant cause of global warming, a long-term trend that is clear despite a recent plateau in the temperatures, an international climate panel said Friday.

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change used its strongest language yet in a report on the causes of climate change, prompting calls for global action to control emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases.

    . . .

    In its previous assessment, in 2007, the U.N.-sponsored panel said it was "very likely" that global warming was due to human activity, particularly the CO2 emissions resulting from the burning of coal, oil and gas.

    The change means that scientists have moved from being 90 percent sure to 95 percent — about the same degree of certainty they have that smoking kills.

    ++++++++++++++

    Shame that we have to share this planet with selfish people who regard their current personal comfort so much over the basic survival needs of future generations.
    Just have Chilcoot and Forkie shut up and you will eliminate half of the gasses immediately.
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    Originally posted by: Chilcoot
    STOCKHOLM (AP) — Scientists now believe it's "extremely likely" that human activity is the dominant cause of global warming, a long-term trend that is clear despite a recent plateau in the temperatures, an international climate panel said Friday.

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change used its strongest language yet in a report on the causes of climate change, prompting calls for global action to control emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases.

    DonDiego is pleased to learn that the climatologists have improved their forecasting, . . . and, apparently, uncovered why the previous climate-models failed to account for the 15-year lull in warming, . . . and the slight recent uptrend in sea ice.

    DonDiego just loves extremely likely conclusions and strong language. He eagerly awaits the details supporting it.

    DonDiego is happy that the Tomato Ranch ridge is over 1200 feet above sea level too.

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