Vegas Free-for-All - He's no leader? Surprise, I don't think so

He's no leader? Surprise, I don't think so

jatki

Jun 23, 2014
7:20am

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
. . . "obama sucks" is the only solution our conservative experts have put forward on any issue since 2009.

"Obama NOT sucking" would be a step in the right direction, . . . but it is likely unattainable.

I don't care who you are...that's some funny shit right there.

jatki

Jun 23, 2014
7:31am

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Originally posted by: snidely333

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...although some of the pundits on the LVA think they have all the answers.

Thats far too generous. The righties don't have any answers to any of America's problems. Don't believe me, look at all their posts above.

"Obama sucks..." Is not a foreign policy. And its not a solution to health care. And its not a jobs plan. And its not a means to balance the budget. And it does not address illegal immigration in this country. But "obama sucks" is the only solution our conservative experts have put forward on any issue since 2009.

As a veteran, I'd rather of had a residual force over in Iraq until they got their act together. I do not understand the wholescale run away and not fight by the Iraq military forces. These guys fought in 3 separate wars and they run away when confronted by a much smaller force.

PJ, you fail to remember how we (the US) fights wars. We go in fight the good the good fight, and leave when a stable government is in place to take care of the people. We just don't leave once the fighting is done without securing the peace. Obama and friends, love to leave before the real work begins. A strong residual force 10 to 20 thousand, left behind to help train and equip the Iraq forces would have likely slowed down or stopped these ISIS folks.

The Iraq government does have a lot to be desired, they need time to get used to a different system and to learn how to get along together. Iran's meddeling does not help in any shape or form and the Iraq government is to blame allowing this to happen.

We thought they had their act together. I've only seen brief videos of ISIS but what I've seen shows them driving around in mini-vans. The report I read said there's about 7000 insurgents beating 250,000 soldiers in the Iraq army.

Really? I thought that was the exact oppsite of my understanding, I thought I saw the Liberation Front of Iraq greatly outnumbered by the Peoples Iragi Liberation front, I think the People's front of Judea are sitting this one out.

forkushV

Jun 23, 2014
10:02am

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Originally posted by: MIKEY7777
Dems solution to everything, spend ten generations future....in one generation.

You sure about that?

Don

Jun 23, 2014
10:31pm

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Originally posted by: forkushV

Wait a minute !

The above chart only counts 2¼ years of Obama-spending.

The Obama isn't done yet:

"The federal debt has resumed rising since our last report, when it had ticked down temporarily due to a seasonal surge in revenue as persons and corporations paid their 2012 income taxes. As of Oct. 4, the amount the Treasury owed to the public was just under $11.94 trillion, an increase of 89.3 percent since the day Obama first became president. That’s still slightly below the 90 percent rise we reported in our April report.
However, the Obama administration recently projected an annual deficit of $750 billion in the fiscal year that began Oct. 1, and $626 billion the year after. At that rate, the debt owed to the public will more than double during the Obama presidency."
Ref: FactCheck 13Oct2013

hoops2

Jun 24, 2014
12:00am

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Wow, forky produced a distorted chart, never thought he would do such a thing.

To put obama's spending inperspective his deficit would exceed the combined deficits of all president's prior to him

Boilerman

Jun 24, 2014
12:39am

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I'm also shocked that Forkie would misrepresent the truth.

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Wow, forky produced a distorted chart, never thought he would do such a thing.

To put obama's spending inperspective his deficit would exceed the combined deficits of all president's prior to him

forkushV

Jun 24, 2014
1:09am

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And it was labeled accurately! - including that GHW Bush only served four years. Any chart that compares two-term presidents with one-termers isn't meant to be proportional. Sorry you felt misled; next times I'll provide closed captions for the cognitively challenged.

And Reagan just about DOUBLED the debt of ALL previous presidents. Like you said, just to put it into perspective.

hoops2

Jun 24, 2014
1:18am

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You presented a chart that ws 3 years old and left the impression that it was current, thus it was deceptive.

Increasing the defict from $10,000 billion to $20,000 billion is a huge difference from what President Reagan did. Both deficts are bad but obama's deficit is significantly worse

Boilerman

Jun 24, 2014
1:27am

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Forkie proves again to be dishonest.

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Wow, forky produced a distorted chart, never thought he would do such a thing.

To put obama's spending inperspective his deficit would exceed the combined deficits of all president's prior to him

forkushV

Jun 24, 2014
1:32am

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Originally posted by: hoops2
You presented a chart that ws 3 years old and left the impression that it was current, thus it was deceptive.

Increasing the defict from $10,000 billion to $20,000 billion is a huge difference from what President Reagan did. Both deficts are bad but obama's deficit is significantly worse

hoops, you didn't provide a source, so I have to ask: Is your source the same guy YOU relied on before, the one who sued Bush for planning 9/11 and sued Obama for being born in Kenya and lost his license to practice law?

Just wondering.

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