How come conservatives are trying to dictate to business

How was your dinner, RM?
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Originally posted by: marcisdave
Did not have time to read all the back and forth on this, but I will comment on this:

BOB CORKER IS A WORTHLESS PIECE OF FU$KING SHIT !

It's a well known fact he is a paid mouthpiece for the Koch Brothers. And the Koch Brothers are all about busting unions.

Now, I truly dislike Republican lawmakers.....but Corker, along with scum like Boehner, Florida governor Rick Scott, and the present Wisconsin governor, are vipers amongst a pit of rattlesnakes. They are devil spawn.

Corker has long been known for his anti-worker stance. Why the good folks of Tennesse keep voting him in is a mystery. They need to learn to quit being sheep and turn off the Faux Box.

All of this from someone who labels pretty much anyone who even mildly disagrees with leftist ideology as a purveyor of HATE. Look in the mirror dude, and you will see real hate.

Why do unions and leftists want card checks instead of secret ballots? Could it be that fellow workers like Marcisdave can identify those who don't agree with them and bully them into union membership by intimidation? Why did VW give the UAW all of their worker's personal contact info but refused to give the same info to anti-union people? ....looks like standard union corruption to me. Pad the pockets of a few people in management to let the camel's nose lead it all the way into the tent.

Detroit. Cave to union greed and destroy a city. Go for it! Hostess. Gimme Gimme Gimme, and shut down a company. Don't just cut off your nose to spite your face, cut off your whole head!

I agree that government should get involved to stop illegal activities. Those of us who grew up in Chicago know that unions will regularly threaten folks with physical violence, and the reason for a secret vote is to eliminate this illegal activity.

Those who desire anything other than a secret vote wish for a union's ability to continue these threats.


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Originally posted by: malibber2
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Volkswagen announced on Monday that the 1,600 workers at its assembly plant in Chattanooga, Tenn., will vote next week on whether to join the United Automobile Workers.

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Volkswagen, unlike many United States companies, is not opposing the unionization drive and because U.A.W. organizers say the majority of workers have already signed cards backing a union.

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Many Tennessee lawmakers, including Gov. Bill Haslam and Senator Bob Corker, have voiced concern about the U.A.W.’s drive, warning that the unionization of the plant would make it less competitive and hurt Chattanooga’s and Tennessee’s business climate.


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The U.A.W. had initially hoped that Volkswagen would grant union recognition based on what it said was a majority of pro-union cards signed by the plant’s workers. But Volkswagen faced intense pressure from Senator Corker and others who opposed granting recognition through a so-called card check, asserting that a secret-ballot election would be fairer.


Look at those conservatives tripping over each other to tell the number 2 automaker in the world that government officials know how to run an automotive business better than they do.

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And what position of strength will these Conservatives speak from? Are they going to send the IRS after them?


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Originally posted by: malibber2
Conservative thugs are being shipped into the area from all over the country to intimidate VW and their employees.
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At the same time, antiunion activists have been streaming into the city of 171,000 and organizing a campaign intent on keeping the UAW from gaining ground in the South. About 1,500 Volkswagen workers will vote on whether they want the UAW to represent them on Feb. 12 through Feb. 14.


Conservative Thugs



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Originally posted by: Joebellstaff
How was your dinner, RM?


Thank you for asking. There is a fish restaurant in Pasadena named "Camerons". While the decor isn't that great, the fish and seafood are excellent. I had shrimp cocktail for an appetizer (with big prawns) and a salmon and halibut skewer for dinner.

Great food.
There have been no allegations of illegal activity. The only threats and intimidation have been from the conservative politicians.

Since Don Diego commented on this thread I'd love to hear how he feels about Coker Motors?

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I agree that government should get involved to stop illegal activities. Those of us who grew up in Chicago know that unions will regularly threaten folks with physical violence, and the reason for a secret vote is to eliminate this illegal activity.

Those who desire anything other than a secret vote wish for a union's ability to continue these threats.

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
And what position of strength will these Conservatives speak from? Are they going to send the IRS after them?
That again?




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Originally posted by: malibber2
There have been no allegations of illegal activity. The only threats and intimidation have been from the conservative politicians.

Since Don Diego commented on this thread I'd love to hear how he feels about Coker Motors?
DonDiego thanks malliber2 for his request.

For the record the quote in malliber2's post, above, was not made by DonDiego.

DonDiego agrees with malliber2: There have been no allegations of illegal activity.
One VW worker in the VW plant has spoken out that he is being treated unfairly in his efforts against the Union.
So far as DonDiego can tell there have been no "dictates" from the State and local politicians to VW managers or to the VW workers or to the UAW.

DonDiego has no doubt the UAW is sincere in preferring the VW plant be unionized.
DonDiego has no doubt those Tennessee politicians who voice doubts are sincere that it should not be. DonDiego suspects that in addition to the fears of economic effects [e.g. higher costs, loss of competitiveness, etc.] they also would like to avoid the almost certain Democrat Party electioneering which will emanate from the new Union offices. The local pols fear interference/damage to the present communication between VW and the Chattanoogans on economic development.

DonDiego does not know how the voting will go.
VW intends to create a works council in the plant, as it has in most of its plants worldwide, and expects the Union to be part of that plan.
"The U.A.W. and many labor relations experts say it would be illegal to have a works council at an American company without first having a union voted in, because without one the works council might be considered an improper employer-dominated employee group."

So, there's gonna be a vote next week. No one has tried to stop it.
DonDiego opines, given the discord, that such a vote is to be preferred over just accepting the Union because the Union claims that a majority of workers signed cards requesting an election. It's the most straightforward method to avoid unwarranted combative arguments.
DonDiego's reason for not commenting on the matter earlier is just this, . . . the election will resolve things as it should. Everything else is just political blather, . . . umm, no offense intended to malliber2.

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__Everything stated above by DonDiego, is pretty much in malibber2's original link The New York Times

__Nothing DonDiego has read suggests that Senator Corker deserves the hatred expressed in this thread. With the exception of the despicable Dallas Cowboys (and sometimes the Islamists seeking his destruction), DonDiego avoids expressing such malevolence towards anyone.

__DonDiego's personal experience with a Union dates to the the Summers of 1967/68/69 when the United Steel Workers [USW] represented him at the Bethlehem Steel Company [BSC]. The Union took some dues money from him.
The Union was largely responsible for many extremely inefficient work rules at the Plant. It struck DonDiego as strange that the two men responsible for operating each in-plant locomotive were not bothered that a third man onboard - the Fireman - sat in the cab every day for 8 hours doing absolutely nothing and earning as much pay as each of the other two.
In 1995 after roughly 140 years of metal production at its Bethlehem, Pennsylvania plant, the Bethlehem Steel Company ceased operations and closed the plant. In 2001, Bethlehem Steel filed for bankruptcy. The Bethlehem Steel Company is no more.
Most of the plant-site was leveled, including a recently constructed state-of-the-art oxygen furnace, visible from DonDiego's familial home. Some relics of the grand-age-of-steel were left standing like the row of blast furnaces [on which DonDiego had worked] and some of the older turn-of-the-20th-century buildings in anticipation of an Industrial Museum Complex, . . . comprising a riverside park and exhibits and walkways and educational activities and hotels and shopping complexes. All that was, in fact, built is the Sands Bethlehem Casino. The nearby ore-bridges are deteriorating from absence of maintenance; the collapse might be worth watching.
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: Joebellstaff
How was your dinner, RM?


Thank you for asking. There is a fish restaurant in Pasadena named "Camerons". While the decor isn't that great, the fish and seafood are excellent. I had shrimp cocktail for an appetizer (with big prawns) and a salmon and halibut skewer for dinner.

Great food.


I stayed at the Em. Suites in Arcadia/ Monrovia over winter break but didn't make it to Camerons. Sounds nice. I like the fish I get here on Maui like onaga and opakapaka.
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
I will try one more time.

If unionization of the VW plant is so good, then why wouldn't Tennessee officials support it?...
Because labor unions help elect Democrats, big time. Is that even open to debate?

Without labor unions, Obama would have lost Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. in 2008, and would never have been elected in the first place. Without labor unions, Harry Reid would no longer be a senator, and the governor of California would be a Republican. And right now, the president would probably be McCain.

And the vice president would be Sarah Palin.

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