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One would need to know the context of what jobs are being created. If the jobs are in engineering, then the increase in the minimum wage is irrelevant
The argument from the right was increasing minimum wage would have a net decrease on jobs. That has never proved to be true throughout history ...and its not proving true now.
Its one thing to have an ideological viewpoint about minimum wage. We can agree to disagree. ...its something else when you ignore history, statistics, and facts. Its not worthwhile debating people who base their position on the Loch Ness Monster.
...If you're really interested in the truth, there is no consensus among economists on the impact of minimum wage on employment...
Okay, I'll buy that.
But I remember a previous thread on the subject where someone claimed there was, in fact, a cause and effect relationship between higher minimum wages and lowered employment. That person was you, alanleroy. Now aren't you a little embarrassed?
You mean the January thread where I said this:
"Economists disagree on the impact of the minimum wage on employment. There are hundreds of papers and studies on both sides of this issue. Some believe it reduces the pay of slightly higher paid workers. Others show it reduces benefits or hours or training. Still others claim businesses simply live with lower profits or raise prices.
Unfortunately ALL of these studies are comparing a minimum wage with a slightly higher minimum wage. I suggested there should be no minimum wage and poverty should be addressed not by corrupting the market for labor and hamstringing our businesses but by direct transfer payments to the poor combined with the elimination of the current bloated government distribution system. The 50 year multi-trillion dollar War on Poverty has been an epic failure....as 50 years later Poverty is the clear victor. Time for some new approaches.
My take is minimum wage increases speed up the march to the automation of the vast majority of minimum wage jobs."
I'd say I'm a model of consistency...now aren't you a little embarrassed?
I don't usually point out spelling errors, but when you referred to yourself as "a model of consistency," you misspelled "inconsistency."
After all, you'r the guy who touted this line: "The irony of the situation is that most people who advocate a higher minimum wage are hoping to help out the workers at the bottom of the ladder, when in reality, a higher minimum wage could very well put those workers out of a job."
