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No where in my post did I blame white Christians for anything.
I merely pointing out that Muslims are not the most common. I make no indictment on white Christians.
I do not reduce every disagreement to political leanings or throw wide inappropriate labels at people.
I look at things through a historical perspective and understand that what is today, will not be tomorrow.

Rationale analysis and discussion should prevail over hysteria and hyperbole.

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No where in my post did I blame white Christians for anything.
I merely pointing out that Muslims are not the most common. I make no indictment on white Christians.
I do not reduce every disagreement to political leanings or throw wide inappropriate labels at people.
I look at things through a historical perspective and understand that what is today, will not be tomorrow.

Rationale analysis and discussion should prevail over hysteria and hyperbole.


Fully respect what you're sayng but I think there's a diffence between the groups you mention and the others. Both have violence as a common theme, one's main purpose is to kill as many people at random without regard to instill fear among the masses.

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Originally posted by: nuggetboy
No where in my post did I blame white Christians for anything.
I merely pointing out that Muslims are not the most common. I make no indictment on white Christians.
I do not reduce every disagreement to political leanings or throw wide inappropriate labels at people.
I look at things through a historical perspective and understand that what is today, will not be tomorrow.

Rationale analysis and discussion should prevail over hysteria and hyperbole.


Fully respect what you're sayng but I think there's a diffence between the groups you mention and the others. Both have violence as a common theme, one's main purpose is to kill as many people at random without regard to instill fear among the masses.
But which is which? Let's roll tape on 2012 to answer that question:

  • April 17, 2012 - Joseph Benjamin Thomas and Samuel James Johnson of Mendota Heights, Minn., are indicted on federal weapons and drug charges following an investigation into their alleged plans to form a white supremacist group called the "Aryan Liberation Movement" and commit violence against minorities, leftists and government officials. Prosecutors allege that Thomas planned to attack the Mexican consulate in St. Paul on May 1 with a truck loaded with barrels of oil and gasoline that he would set on fire
  • August 5, 2012 - Neo-Nazi skinhead Wade Michael Page, 40, opens fire with a 9 mm handgun at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., near Milwaukee, killing six and critically wounding three, including a police officer who responded.
  • August 16, 2012 - Seven people with ties to the antigovernment “sovereign citizens” movement allegedly ambush and murder Louisiana sheriff’s deputies Brandon Nielsen, 34, and Jeremy Triche, 27.
  • September 4, 2012 - Christopher Lacy, 36, shoots California Highway Patrol officer Kenyon Youngstrom at close range after the officer stops Lacy’s vehicle, which had an obstructed license plate, on I-680 near Alamo, Calif. Lacy is fatally shot by another trooper who responds to the scene. Youngstrom dies September 5. An investigation into Lacy’s background reveals a large amount of antigovernment “sovereign citizens” literature on several computers at his home.

    jatki, now it's your turn to list the domestic terrorism coming from Muslims in 2012. There's plenty of white space below for you to do so. Would you care to compare 2011 instead; that was a big year for bombing Islamic temples you know. Or 2010 or 2009 or...

    Our own home-grown white terrorists, who are usually "Christian" and frequently white supremacists, dwarf the domestic attacks by Muslims. And it ain't close!
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    Originally posted by: nuggetboy
    No where in my post did I blame white Christians for anything.
    I merely pointing out that Muslims are not the most common. I make no indictment on white Christians.
    I do not reduce every disagreement to political leanings or throw wide inappropriate labels at people.
    I look at things through a historical perspective and understand that what is today, will not be tomorrow.

    Rationale analysis and discussion should prevail over hysteria and hyperbole.


    Fully respect what you're sayng but I think there's a diffence between the groups you mention and the others. Both have violence as a common theme, one's main purpose is to kill as many people at random without regard to instill fear among the masses.
    But which is which? Let's roll tape on 2012 to answer that question:

  • April 17, 2012 - Joseph Benjamin Thomas and Samuel James Johnson of Mendota Heights, Minn., are indicted on federal weapons and drug charges following an investigation into their alleged plans to form a white supremacist group called the "Aryan Liberation Movement" and commit violence against minorities, leftists and government officials. Prosecutors allege that Thomas planned to attack the Mexican consulate in St. Paul on May 1 with a truck loaded with barrels of oil and gasoline that he would set on fire
  • August 5, 2012 - Neo-Nazi skinhead Wade Michael Page, 40, opens fire with a 9 mm handgun at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., near Milwaukee, killing six and critically wounding three, including a police officer who responded.
  • August 16, 2012 - Seven people with ties to the antigovernment “sovereign citizens” movement allegedly ambush and murder Louisiana sheriff’s deputies Brandon Nielsen, 34, and Jeremy Triche, 27.
  • September 4, 2012 - Christopher Lacy, 36, shoots California Highway Patrol officer Kenyon Youngstrom at close range after the officer stops Lacy’s vehicle, which had an obstructed license plate, on I-680 near Alamo, Calif. Lacy is fatally shot by another trooper who responds to the scene. Youngstrom dies September 5. An investigation into Lacy’s background reveals a large amount of antigovernment “sovereign citizens” literature on several computers at his home.

    jatki, now it's your turn to list the domestic terrorism coming from Muslims in 2012. There's plenty of white space below for you to do so. Would you care to compare 2011 instead; that was a big year for bombing Islamic temples you know. Or 2010 or 2009 or...

    Our own home-grown white terrorists, who are usually "Christian" and frequently white supremacists, dwarf the domestic attacks by Muslims. And it ain't close!


  • None of the people you identify are listed as Christian. Lacy is a Nazi-an anti-Chrisian SOCIALIST cult.
    If we are going to count every malcontent that kills a cop do we include the blacks/Mexicans who commit a majority of US murders including the black MSNBC fan

    Christopher Dorner

    anuary 7, 2012 Tampa, FL, various targets Sami Osmakac is a man who allegedly plotted an attack, to avenge what he felt were wrongs done to Muslims, in the area around Tampa, Florida.[1][2] Osmakac, an Albanian from Kosovo and a naturalized US citizen, was arrested January 7, 2012, for the alleged attack plan, which involved bombing nightclubs, detonating a car bomb, using an assault rifle, wearing an explosive belt in a crowded area, and taking hostages.[41] Tampa, FL Sami Osmakac
    February 17, 2012 United States Capitol A Moroccan man who was arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) for allegedly plotting to carry out a suicide bombing on the United States Capitol. El Khalifi thought he was working with al-Qaeda operatives, but was actually in contact with undercover FBI agents. He was sentenced to prison for 30 years in September 2012.[42] Washington, D.C. Amine El Khalifi
    August 10, 2012 Wainwright Building On the morning of August 10, 2012, several St. Louis television and radio outlets received an e-mail from a person who said they were going to bomb the Wainwright State Office Building in downtown St. Louis. The e-mailer was taken into custody and is currently charged with attempt to commit mass-murder and attempt to commit a terrorist act.[43] St. Louis, Missouri Mark Anthony Grady
    October 17, 2012 New York Federal Reserve A Bangladeshi man was charged with trying to blow up the Federal Reserve building in New York. While Nafis believed he had the blessing of al-Qaeda and was acting on behalf of the terrorist group, he has no known ties, according to federal officials.[44] New York City, NY Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis

    Last time a group of white Christians hijacked a plane and fly it into a skyscraper to kill people-NEVER
    Last time a white Christian tried to blow up a plane with an underwear bomb-NEVER
    Last time a group of Christians got together to blow up a marathon-NEVER

    The people are not as dumb as you think. They know the overwhelming percentage of violent street crime is commited by the base of the Democrat party-blacks and Mexicans.
    They know the only religion that wants to blow up innocent civilians in America is Muslims.
    You know it, I know it, the whole country knows it and no amount of name-calling, stomping of feet or sophistry is going to change the facts.

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    Originally posted by: nuggetboy
    No where in my post did I blame white Christians for anything.
    I merely pointing out that Muslims are not the most common. I make no indictment on white Christians.
    I do not reduce every disagreement to political leanings or throw wide inappropriate labels at people.
    I look at things through a historical perspective and understand that what is today, will not be tomorrow.

    Rationale analysis and discussion should prevail over hysteria and hyperbole.


    Fully respect what you're sayng but I think there's a diffence between the groups you mention and the others. Both have violence as a common theme, one's main purpose is to kill as many people at random without regard to instill fear among the masses.
    But which is which? Let's roll tape on 2012 to answer that question:

  • April 17, 2012 - Joseph Benjamin Thomas and Samuel James Johnson of Mendota Heights, Minn., are indicted on federal weapons and drug charges following an investigation into their alleged plans to form a white supremacist group called the "Aryan Liberation Movement" and commit violence against minorities, leftists and government officials. Prosecutors allege that Thomas planned to attack the Mexican consulate in St. Paul on May 1 with a truck loaded with barrels of oil and gasoline that he would set on fire
  • August 5, 2012 - Neo-Nazi skinhead Wade Michael Page, 40, opens fire with a 9 mm handgun at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., near Milwaukee, killing six and critically wounding three, including a police officer who responded.
  • August 16, 2012 - Seven people with ties to the antigovernment “sovereign citizens” movement allegedly ambush and murder Louisiana sheriff’s deputies Brandon Nielsen, 34, and Jeremy Triche, 27.
  • September 4, 2012 - Christopher Lacy, 36, shoots California Highway Patrol officer Kenyon Youngstrom at close range after the officer stops Lacy’s vehicle, which had an obstructed license plate, on I-680 near Alamo, Calif. Lacy is fatally shot by another trooper who responds to the scene. Youngstrom dies September 5. An investigation into Lacy’s background reveals a large amount of antigovernment “sovereign citizens” literature on several computers at his home.

    jatki, now it's your turn to list the domestic terrorism coming from Muslims in 2012. There's plenty of white space below for you to do so. Would you care to compare 2011 instead; that was a big year for bombing Islamic temples you know. Or 2010 or 2009 or...

    Our own home-grown white terrorists, who are usually "Christian" and frequently white supremacists, dwarf the domestic attacks by Muslims. And it ain't close!


  • None of the people you identify are listed as Christian. Lacy is a Nazi-an anti-Chrisian SOCIALIST cult.
    If we are going to count every malcontent that kills a cop do we include the blacks/Mexicans who commit a majority of US murders including the black MSNBC fan

    Christopher Dorner

    anuary 7, 2012 Tampa, FL, various targets Sami Osmakac is a man who allegedly plotted an attack, to avenge what he felt were wrongs done to Muslims, in the area around Tampa, Florida.[1][2] Osmakac, an Albanian from Kosovo and a naturalized US citizen, was arrested January 7, 2012, for the alleged attack plan, which involved bombing nightclubs, detonating a car bomb, using an assault rifle, wearing an explosive belt in a crowded area, and taking hostages.[41] Tampa, FL Sami Osmakac
    February 17, 2012 United States Capitol A Moroccan man who was arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) for allegedly plotting to carry out a suicide bombing on the United States Capitol. El Khalifi thought he was working with al-Qaeda operatives, but was actually in contact with undercover FBI agents. He was sentenced to prison for 30 years in September 2012.[42] Washington, D.C. Amine El Khalifi
    August 10, 2012 Wainwright Building On the morning of August 10, 2012, several St. Louis television and radio outlets received an e-mail from a person who said they were going to bomb the Wainwright State Office Building in downtown St. Louis. The e-mailer was taken into custody and is currently charged with attempt to commit mass-murder and attempt to commit a terrorist act.[43] St. Louis, Missouri Mark Anthony Grady
    October 17, 2012 New York Federal Reserve A Bangladeshi man was charged with trying to blow up the Federal Reserve building in New York. While Nafis believed he had the blessing of al-Qaeda and was acting on behalf of the terrorist group, he has no known ties, according to federal officials.[44] New York City, NY Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafis...
    So in 2012, white supremacist and sovereign citizen terrorists killed ten Americans and seriously wounded several more.

    Muslim terrorists killed zero domestically according to YOUR list. That's what I thought.

    Want to try 2011? Maybe you'll have better luck.
    From a psychological point of view, it's interesting how some low probability stuff like getting killed by a terrorist gets a lot of attention in the media but much more common mundane ways of dying like motor vehicle crashes or the flu are accepted as a part of life's risks. The flu kills 30,000 a year. Semi-auto rifles kill 1/100 to 1/300 of that and what is the public discussing? Not flu prevention.
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    snidely333

    From a psychological point of view



    That's what this thread was missing, amateur psychology. Thanks.

    I wonder which melbedewy hates more, black people or motor vehicles?



    Thanks for playing.
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    The flu kills 30,000 a year. Semi-auto rifles kill 1/100 to 1/300 of that and what is the public discussing? Not flu prevention.
    I'm thinking this is probably because Congress really can't pass simple, common sense legislation that would meaningfully impact the number of flu deaths.
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    From a psychological point of view, it's interesting how some low probability stuff . . . gets a lot of attention in the media but much more common mundane ways of dying . . . are accepted as a part of life's risks.
    Based upon the TV and motion pictures of his childhood, DonDiego always thought quicksand would play a much larger part in his adult life.
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    Originally posted by: snidely333
    From a psychological point of view, it's interesting how some low probability stuff . . . gets a lot of attention in the media but much more common mundane ways of dying . . . are accepted as a part of life's risks.
    Based upon the TV and motion pictures of his childhood, DonDiego always thought quicksand would play a much larger part in his adult life.


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