Muslim violence

I thought Muslims were supposed to be non violent!
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
That settles it. According to Malibber, Forkie, and soon likely Chilly, Christians are more violent than Muslims. That tells us much about his group.
Nope I think you need to crack the books historically affiliation with any religious group makes one more prone to violence. Region always comes down to coverting people by any means possible and punishing heretics.

Keep digging, you're approaching China.


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Originally posted by: malibber2
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
That settles it. According to Malibber, Forkie, and soon likely Chilly, Christians are more violent than Muslims. That tells us much about his group.
Nope I think you need to crack the books historically affiliation with any religious group makes one more prone to violence. Region always comes down to covering people by any means possible and punishing heretics.


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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: forkushV: I understand there are some Muslims overseas who don't hate America. They must be very forgiving people.

I understand there are some leftists in America who don't hate America. They are difficult to find....especially here.


Don't throw rocks from a glass house.

Just a few short weeks ago our resident conservatives were cheering a right wing militant group who was threatening to open fire on the US government because some deadbeat, tax cheat did not recognize the US Government.


Boiler, if you want to find the common thread it isn't their religious affiliation that is the problem. The problem is a fanatical right wing belief system that makes those prone to violence believe they are the most righteous and ultimate arbiters of any religious or governmental issue that comes a society's way. If you ask me there isn't much difference between Timothy McVeigh and the Tsarnaev brothers. I find it queer you try to draw a distinction between violent right wing radicals based upon which religion they belong to.


Note I was going to use the word odd instead of queer, but knowing how you're not a fan of political correctness I chose the more precise, but non pc word to describe my take on your views,
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Forkie and Chilly seem to argue that Christians and Muslims are equally violent. Do you two agree or disagree?


Terrorists are equally violent regardless of what religion they belong to. Today there are likely more organized Islamic terrorist groups than Christian ones. Is that the answer you are looking for?

You play a very dangerous and ignorant game by broadly associating terrorists with a generic religion. Do you broadly associate all Christians with the Branch Dividians...or Jonestown...or the KKK...or the IRA? And do you as a Christian feel the need to apologize on behalf of these organizations? We both know the answer. But I have a feeling you have different answers for different people based upon their religion.


Wow, PJ is the winner. Finally a Liberal willing to admit the truth that not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims. Okay, now the rest of you can name the handful of exceptions, but they are exceptions.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: forkushV: I understand there are some Muslims overseas who don't hate America. They must be very forgiving people.

I understand there are some leftists in America who don't hate America. They are difficult to find....especially here.


Don't throw rocks from a glass house.

Just a few short weeks ago our resident conservatives were cheering a right wing militant group who was threatening to open fire on the US government because some deadbeat, tax cheat did not recognize the US Government.


You obviously didn't and don't understand what was happening at the Bundy ranch. Hundreds of armed federal agents showing up at the ranch was about much more than collecting back taxes from a guy who had/has viable disagreements with federal agency policy.

Please tell me how that encounter justifies, or is even similar to, Muslim hatred of America that is shared by Forkush. Our nation should be hated, according to him. America is responsible for the current jihad that started over 700 years ago.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Forkie and Chilly seem to argue that Christians and Muslims are equally violent. Do you two agree or disagree?


Terrorists are equally violent regardless of what religion they belong to. Today there are likely more organized Islamic terrorist groups than Christian ones. Is that the answer you are looking for?

You play a very dangerous and ignorant game by broadly associating terrorists with a generic religion. Do you broadly associate all Christians with the Branch Dividians...or Jonestown...or the KKK...or the IRA? And do you as a Christian feel the need to apologize on behalf of these organizations? We both know the answer. But I have a feeling you have different answers for different people based upon their religion.


The Branch Davidians were killed , most of them burned to death, including quite a few children, in Waco TX. Who killed them? Were they so violent that they all deserved to die? Exactly who where they threatening? I have some real problems when any religious organization morphs into a sect that turns its leader into a personal Messiah, but that isn't a reason to kill them all. The sect in Jonestown killed who? Themselves. How are they comparable to any Muslim jihad? The KKK? Southern Democrat racists. Some Southern Christian Democrats are/were racists. See Senator Robert Byrd. The IRA? I don't understand that one, but weren't both sides Christian?

And, I agree with you for the second time today. Today there are likely more organized Islamic terrorist groups than Christian ones. I will add, it isn't even close. Islamists are killing people world wide at an ever-increasing rate. They aren't going to stop what they are doing, no matter what America does. For the sake of humanity worldwide, America must stop giving weapons to these people.
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Wow, PJ is the winner. Finally a Liberal willing to admit the truth that not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims. Okay, now the rest of you can name the handful of exceptions, but they are exceptions.


All terrorists are Muslims? I said no such thing. And Forkush is correct that in this country the overwhelming number of terrorists are right wing Christian nuts.

im not willing to group people in my neighborhood. Church with the guy who assassinated an abortion doctor in Kansas just because they share a common faith. Boilerman probably wouldnt either...but it seems painting with broad brush with Islam is easier
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