Muslim violence

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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: forkushV: I understand there are some Muslims overseas who don't hate America. They must be very forgiving people.

I understand there are some leftists in America who don't hate America. They are difficult to find....especially here.


Don't throw rocks from a glass house.

Just a few short weeks ago our resident conservatives were cheering a right wing militant group who was threatening to open fire on the US government because some deadbeat, tax cheat did not recognize the US Government.


You obviously didn't and don't understand what was happening at the Bundy ranch. Hundreds of armed federal agents showing up at the ranch was about much more than collecting back taxes from a guy who had/has viable disagreements with federal agency policy.

Please tell me how that encounter justifies, or is even similar to, Muslim hatred of America that is shared by Forkush. Our nation should be hated, according to him. America is responsible for the current jihad that started over 700 years ago.


Im very aware of the facts surrounding the Bundy ranch and his violation of US Federal Law and his open contempt for the United States government (the one you claim liberals hate).

Cant you see how funny that is, Bob? your own ridiculousness?

In the span of 2 posts you go from accusing liberals of hating America to defending someone who threatened to shoot federal agents just doing their job as ordered by a Federal Court.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: forkushV: I understand there are some Muslims overseas who don't hate America. They must be very forgiving people.

I understand there are some leftists in America who don't hate America. They are difficult to find....especially here.


Don't throw rocks from a glass house.

Just a few short weeks ago our resident conservatives were cheering a right wing militant group who was threatening to open fire on the US government because some deadbeat, tax cheat did not recognize the US Government.


You obviously didn't and don't understand what was happening at the Bundy ranch. Hundreds of armed federal agents showing up at the ranch was about much more than collecting back taxes from a guy who had/has viable disagreements with federal agency policy.

Please tell me how that encounter justifies, or is even similar to, Muslim hatred of America that is shared by Forkush. Our nation should be hated, according to him. America is responsible for the current jihad that started over 700 years ago.


Im very aware of the facts surrounding the Bundy ranch and his violation of US Federal Law and his open contempt for the United States government (the one you claim liberals hate).

Cant you see how funny that is, Bob? your own ridiculousness?

In the span of 2 posts you go from accusing liberals of hating America to defending someone who threatened to shoot federal agents just doing their job as ordered by a Federal Court.

I said (many) liberals hate America. I didn't say they hate the government. Liberals love the Obama form of government. They championed the heavily armed BLM agents assault on a Nevada rancher, and wondered why anyone would do anything to stand with that rancher. The willingness of the Obama administration to spend 7 figures to rustle several hundred cattle using armored carriers, swat teams and helicopters, once again, was not about collecting back taxes. Liberals love the Obama government. At the same time they hate America. America is to blame for all Islamic actions worldwide. Just ask Fork.

None of what happened at the Bundy ranch is anywhere comparable with Islam's war on infidels. Cliven, his family, and supporters, won't be crucifying people ever. ISIS and ISIL will, tomorrow. Cliven, his family, and supporters won't be decapitating anyone, ever. ISIS and ISIL will, also likely to happen tomorrow and every day in the near future.

Deflecting away from Islamic barbaric jihad by trying to compare it to the Bundy ranch standoff makes you look ridiculous...not me.
The moral of Bob's story is you can hate the "Obama form of government" and love America: The Obama form of government being a democratic majority of people electing a president to serve for two terms and enforce a democratically written set of laws after verdict has been rendered in a democratically created Federal court.

Its not terrorism if you dont like the way the democratic majority of people vote in the US. And Federal Agents should not be equipped with firearms or armor even after they've been threatened by a militant, armed American loving-criminal and his merry men. Thanks, Bob, for clearing up the difference between Muslim terrorists and American patriots.
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Forkie and Chilly seem to argue that Christians and Muslims are equally violent. Do you two agree or disagree?


I think the larger question is does one think that there is a war between radical islam (which believes their version of islam is the only true religion & non believers need to be killed (see what ISIS is doing)) and the rest of the world?


Terrorism:

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
The moral of Bob's story is you can hate the "Obama form of government" and love America: The Obama form of government being a democratic majority of people electing a president to serve for two terms and enforce a democratically written set of laws after verdict has been rendered in a democratically created Federal court.

Its not terrorism if you dont like the way the democratic majority of people vote in the US. And Federal Agents should not be equipped with firearms or armor even after they've been threatened by a militant, armed American loving-criminal and his merry men. Thanks, Bob, for clearing up the difference between Muslim terrorists and American patriots.


I agreed with what Bob just said and I would've stood in favor of Bundys stance(remember his beef wasn't with the state govt. which he was will ing to pay, it was just the feds) no m,atter who was the sitting pres. Anytime a govt. goes in armed to the teeth over a some skinny cows in the middle of the desert...Yea, I have a problem with that. Oh I could care less what the character of the man is, could be a satan worshipping liberal and I would've still sided with him over the strong armed tactics of the govt.

Oh, and comparing present day Christians to present day Islamic jihadists in the violence arean, HA! , no f'n comparison at all( although reading forkies spin on it was quite comical)
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Oh, and comparing present day Christians to present day Islamic jihadists in the violence arean, HA! , no f'n comparison at all( although reading forkies spin on it was quite comical)
"Spin"



Now Forkie is telling us that Blackwater is a terrorist organization on the same line as al qaeda?


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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: jatki99
Oh, and comparing present day Christians to present day Islamic jihadists in the violence arean, HA! , no f'n comparison at all( although reading forkies spin on it was quite comical)
"Spin"




Israel's nearly three-week vigil for three teens kidnapped in the West Bank - including one with U.S. citizenship - ended grimly Monday, with the discovery of their bodies just north of Hebro.n Naftali Frenkel, 16 was a US citizen.

I am sure obama will review this murder of a US citizen very carefully
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