My Obamacare prediction of higher than promised cost will come true

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Originally posted by: forkushV
Or maybe you had junk insurance previously,

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That's likely to be the case. A lot of healthy people didn't realize that the "health insurance" they bought but never used didn't really provide any meaningful coverage.

Also, I don't have a lot of faith right now in Robert Adams' reading ability:

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: LVrealestateHELP
This article says home prices are projected to hit pre-recession values by 2016. https://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/06/17/report-economic-recovery-not-slowing/

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They may have edited it since you read it, but I don't find that anywhere in the story.

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Originally posted by: drmilled
As usual, more smoke, mirrors and Bullshit from forkush, pj and chilcoot. After all their rhetoric, the facts remain that the abomination known as Obamacare is nothing more than take from those that work for their money and give to the lifelong freeloaders who always have their hands out for more government hand outs.

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: LVrealestateHELP
On July 1st of 2014 my policy will double in cost for the same policy due to Obamacare. THANKS FOR HELPING ME OUT! He said things were going to change, he wasn't lying about that. This reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw that said "I'll keep my money and you can keep the change".

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Ooh, details please!!!

Because there could have been a variety of reasons for that. Maybe you just went with your insurance company's quote and didn't check on the Obamacare Marketplace (I'm betting on this one.) And unfortunately, insurance companies and WC Fields have the same motto: "Never give a sucker an even break."

Of course Julie Boonstra on those Koch brothers teevee commercials and "Bette in Spokane" cited in the GOP response to the State of the Union, pathetically never shopped on the Marketplace either. Same with Deborah Cavallaro, who was highlighted by Maria Bartiromo on CNBC.

Or maybe you're like Emily Lamb in another Kochmercial, who upgraded to Platinum but (duh) says it's expensive.

Or maybe you had junk insurance previously, like Dianne Barrette in a CBS Obamacare horror story, which Consumer Reports debunked by pointing out that the woman was previously paying premiums in order to be effectively UNinsured. And later Barrette admitted that Obamacare could be a "blessing in disguise."

Or maybe you're like Edie Sundby quoted by the Wall Street Journal - and DonDiego - who said her insurance was cancelled by Obamacare, but her insurance company told investors a year earlier that it was pulling out of California because it had too few subscribers to compete. And the ungrateful wretch was able to get new health insurance despite her pre-existing condition because of Obamacare.

Or maybe you're like Boilerman's friend, Dishonest Nick, who was actually able to get a much lower rate for the the exact precise criteria Nick himself quoted in an email.

Or maybe what you're saying is accurate, Robert.

In which case YOU ARE THE UNICORN - you know, the thing we've all heard about but never seen. So details please! If it all verifies, you could become famous and become the go-to real estate broker for very gullible people who really, really want to believe the Obamacare horror stories. Good luck!

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
In April the CBO reduced its estimate of the cost of Obamacare next year. Does Boilerman have a timeline so we can measure his prediction vs the clueless people in the CBO?

Aside from the trivial fact of 15Million+ people now being able to get treatment when they are sick....I am mostly interested in the fiscal responsibility of the law and its impact on our deficit. Considering many states like mine (and Boilerman's) that refuse to expand Medicaid I think the fiscal nature of the law is a slam dunk. I'd rather see the fiscal nature of the law come closer to its projections and cover more people. But conservative governors seem to think sick people are better off when they drink chicken soup instead of going to a hospital.

Here's my prediction: More than half the states that have rejected Medicaid expansion will embrace it by the time Hillary Clinton gives her inaugural address in 2017. And all the states will have expanded Medicaid by her reelection in 2020.

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: LVrealestateHELP
On July 1st of 2014 my policy will double in cost for the same policy due to Obamacare. THANKS FOR HELPING ME OUT! He said things were going to change, he wasn't lying about that. This reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw that said "I'll keep my money and you can keep the change".

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Ooh, details please!!!

Because there could have been a variety of reasons for that. Maybe you just went with your insurance company's quote and didn't check on the Obamacare Marketplace (I'm betting on this one.) And unfortunately, insurance companies and WC Fields have the same motto: "Never give a sucker an even break."

Of course Julie Boonstra on those Koch brothers teevee commercials and "Bette in Spokane" cited in the GOP response to the State of the Union, pathetically never shopped on the Marketplace either. Same with Deborah Cavallaro, who was highlighted by Maria Bartiromo on CNBC.

Or maybe you're like Emily Lamb in another Kochmercial, who upgraded to Platinum but (duh) says it's expensive.

Or maybe you had junk insurance previously, like Dianne Barrette in a CBS Obamacare horror story, which Consumer Reports debunked by pointing out that the woman was previously paying premiums in order to be effectively UNinsured. And later Barrette admitted that Obamacare could be a "blessing in disguise."

Or maybe you're like Edie Sundby quoted by the Wall Street Journal - and DonDiego - who said her insurance was cancelled by Obamacare, but her insurance company told investors a year earlier that it was pulling out of California because it had too few subscribers to compete. And the ungrateful wretch was able to get new health insurance despite her pre-existing condition because of Obamacare.

Or maybe you're like Boilerman's friend, Dishonest Nick, who was actually able to get a much lower rate for the the exact precise criteria Nick himself quoted in an email.

Or maybe what you're saying is accurate, Robert.

In which case YOU ARE THE UNICORN - you know, the thing we've all heard about but never seen. So details please! If it all verifies, you could become famous and become the go-to real estate broker for very gullible people who really, really want to believe the Obamacare horror stories. Good luck!

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Originally posted by: LVrealestateHELP

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: LVrealestateHELP
On July 1st of 2014 my policy will double in cost for the same policy due to Obamacare. THANKS FOR HELPING ME OUT! He said things were going to change, he wasn't lying about that. This reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw that said "I'll keep my money and you can keep the change".

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Ooh, details please!!!

Because there could have been a variety of reasons for that. Maybe you just went with your insurance company's quote and didn't check on the Obamacare Marketplace (I'm betting on this one.) And unfortunately, insurance companies and WC Fields have the same motto: "Never give a sucker an even break."

Of course Julie Boonstra on those Koch brothers teevee commercials and "Bette in Spokane" cited in the GOP response to the State of the Union, pathetically never shopped on the Marketplace either. Same with Deborah Cavallaro, who was highlighted by Maria Bartiromo on CNBC.

Or maybe you're like Emily Lamb in another Kochmercial, who upgraded to Platinum but (duh) says it's expensive.

Or maybe you had junk insurance previously, like Dianne Barrette in a CBS Obamacare horror story, which Consumer Reports debunked by pointing out that the woman was previously paying premiums in order to be effectively UNinsured. And later Barrette admitted that Obamacare could be a "blessing in disguise."

Or maybe you're like Edie Sundby quoted by the Wall Street Journal - and DonDiego - who said her insurance was cancelled by Obamacare, but her insurance company told investors a year earlier that it was pulling out of California because it had too few subscribers to compete. And the ungrateful wretch was able to get new health insurance despite her pre-existing condition because of Obamacare.

Or maybe you're like Boilerman's friend, Dishonest Nick, who was actually able to get a much lower rate for the the exact precise criteria Nick himself quoted in an email.

Or maybe what you're saying is accurate, Robert.

In which case YOU ARE THE UNICORN - you know, the thing we've all heard about but never seen. So details please! If it all verifies, you could become famous and become the go-to real estate broker for very gullible people who really, really want to believe the Obamacare horror stories. Good luck!

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I was told that if I want to keep my current plan it will double in cost monthly. After shopping around for a new policy I decided if I am going to HAVE to pay more then I will upgrade my policy to one that has better coverage but is TRIPLE the cost of the plan I am currently on. Based on your reply I am assuming you are looking for a loop hole in my response to justify the BS that Obama is shoving down my throat. Unfortunately there isn't one. I have to pay DOUBLE for the same coverage or TRIPLE for a new improved policy NEITHER of which I want. I want my current policy for the current price. BUT I can't get that because I have to pay for all the other douche bags that don't handle their own personal insurance problems. WELCOME TO THE BEGINNING OF SOCIALISM. FYI I have 4 kids of my own and a wife. I work hard to provide for my family and I shouldn't HAVE to pay for anyone else. The problem is if you reward those that don't work hard and punish those that do work hard (by DOUBLING there costs for no fault of their own) then you will essentially discourage the hard workers and make them lazy and then reinforce the lazy actions of the lazy ones which will never motivate them to handle business and get off their @$$.

I know this will probably turn into a political nightmare thread which I really have no interest in participating in since it won't change anything anyways. So this will be my last post on this thread.

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Originally posted by: LVrealestateHELP

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: LVrealestateHELP
On July 1st of 2014 my policy will double in cost for the same policy due to Obamacare. THANKS FOR HELPING ME OUT! He said things were going to change, he wasn't lying about that. This reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw that said "I'll keep my money and you can keep the change".

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Ooh, details please!!!

Because there could have been a variety of reasons for that. Maybe you just went with your insurance company's quote and didn't check on the Obamacare Marketplace (I'm betting on this one.) And unfortunately, insurance companies and WC Fields have the same motto: "Never give a sucker an even break."

Of course Julie Boonstra on those Koch brothers teevee commercials and "Bette in Spokane" cited in the GOP response to the State of the Union, pathetically never shopped on the Marketplace either. Same with Deborah Cavallaro, who was highlighted by Maria Bartiromo on CNBC.

Or maybe you're like Emily Lamb in another Kochmercial, who upgraded to Platinum but (duh) says it's expensive.

Or maybe you had junk insurance previously, like Dianne Barrette in a CBS Obamacare horror story, which Consumer Reports debunked by pointing out that the woman was previously paying premiums in order to be effectively UNinsured. And later Barrette admitted that Obamacare could be a "blessing in disguise."

Or maybe you're like Edie Sundby quoted by the Wall Street Journal - and DonDiego - who said her insurance was cancelled by Obamacare, but her insurance company told investors a year earlier that it was pulling out of California because it had too few subscribers to compete. And the ungrateful wretch was able to get new health insurance despite her pre-existing condition because of Obamacare.

Or maybe you're like Boilerman's friend, Dishonest Nick, who was actually able to get a much lower rate for the the exact precise criteria Nick himself quoted in an email.

Or maybe what you're saying is accurate, Robert.

In which case YOU ARE THE UNICORN - you know, the thing we've all heard about but never seen. So details please! If it all verifies, you could become famous and become the go-to real estate broker for very gullible people who really, really want to believe the Obamacare horror stories. Good luck!

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I was told that if I want to keep my current plan it will double in cost monthly. After shopping around for a new policy I decided if I am going to HAVE to pay more then I will upgrade my policy to one that has better coverage but is TRIPLE the cost of the plan I am currently on. Based on your reply I am assuming you are looking for a loop hole in my response to justify the BS that Obama is shoving down my throat. Unfortunately there isn't one. I have to pay DOUBLE for the same coverage or TRIPLE for a new improved policy NEITHER of which I want. I want my current policy for the current price. BUT I can't get that because I have to pay for all the other douche bags that don't handle their own personal insurance problems. WELCOME TO THE BEGINNING OF SOCIALISM. FYI I have 4 kids of my own and a wife. I work hard to provide for my family and I shouldn't HAVE to pay for anyone else. The problem is if you reward those that don't work hard and punish those that do work hard (by DOUBLING there costs for no fault of their own) then you will essentially discourage the hard workers and make them lazy and then reinforce the lazy actions of the lazy ones which will never motivate them to handle business and get off their @$$.

I know this will probably turn into a political nightmare thread which I really have no interest in participating in since it won't change anything anyways. So this will be my last post on this thread.

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Damn I'm good:

"...you just went with your insurance company's quote and didn't check on the Obamacare Marketplace (I'm betting on this one.) And unfortunately, insurance companies and WC Fields have the same motto: "Never give a sucker an even break."

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Originally posted by: hoops2
The Obama administration is struggling to resolve data discrepancies that could jeopardize coverage for millions who sought health insurance on the federal exchange HealthCare.gov, according to a watchdog report on the still-rocky implementation of ObamaCare.

Though the system's troubles have faded from the headlines since the problem-plagued launch last October, a report from the health department inspector general provided the first independent look at widespread issues the government is having effectively fact-checking the information applicants are putting in the system.

According to the report, the administration was unable to resolve 2.6 million so-called "inconsistencies" out of a total of 2.9 million such problems from October through December 2013.

The government needs to determine applicants' eligibility in order to verify they can enroll and, in some cases, get government subsidies. Without that step, coverage could be jeopardized. Critics fear these issues also could cause chaos during the 2015 tax-filing season, as many would have to pay back subsidy money they were not entitled to.

According to the report, those running the federal marketplace are having trouble resolving problems "even if applicants submitted appropriate documentation."

"The federal marketplace was generally incapable of resolving most inconsistencies," the report said, claiming the government could not resolve 89 percent of the problems

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