No Strategy

"But Please stop pretending you care about Federal deficits. Clearly you dont mind them in the context of tearing down and rebuilding the Middle East"

We don't have to keep paying for 45m people on food stamps (all time highs)
"If you're a student of history, you know that quite a few countries let Hitler do what he wanted in Europe because he had not threatened them"

Hitler would have withdrawn from both the Rhineland and Sudetenland if France and Britain were willing to send in troops
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Originally posted by: snidely333


If you're a student of history, you know that quite a few countries let Hitler do what he wanted in Europe because he had not threatened them. Eventually, what could have been a large problem turned into a gigantic problem. Better to stop an infestation in the early stages than to try to eliminate one after its grown and gotten more powerful.


I dont know which group are the Nazi's. Maybe they both are. And thats the problem. Unless Snidely thinks the US should Annex the conflicted areas and make them US States he should weigh in on what genocidal, crazy group he thinks is fit to rule the Middle East. ( It would appear he thinks its the same people that just got done using chemical weapons on their own people.)


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: snidely333


If you're a student of history, you know that quite a few countries let Hitler do what he wanted in Europe because he had not threatened them. Eventually, what could have been a large problem turned into a gigantic problem. Better to stop an infestation in the early stages than to try to eliminate one after its grown and gotten more powerful.


I dont know which group are the Nazi's. Maybe they both are. And thats the problem. Unless Snidely thinks the US should Annex the conflicted areas and make them US States he should weigh in on what genocidal, crazy group he thinks is fit to rule the Middle East. ( It would appear he thinks its the same people that just got done using chemical weapons on their own people.)


Your position keeps changing with every post you make. And failed trying to put downs words I never said.

Your position is that we shouldn't do anything. It's an "over there" problem. My position is we start by killing the most dangerous ones and keep going until we find the people, and I"m confident they exist, that want to live peaceful lives. None of the genocidal crazy groups are fit to rule.


The advantage to attacking is that isis is out in the open and begging to be attacked. The rest of these rodents live underground and hide behind civilians.
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Originally posted by: snidely333
My position is we start by killing the most dangerous ones and keep going until we find the people, and I"m confident they exist, that want to live peaceful lives. None of the genocidal crazy groups are fit to rule.


You are probably right that moderates exist but they are not the majority. The people of Iraq had a democratic election and they chose a leader who murders sectarian opponents who in turn create a terrorist group to fight back.

But dont worry - it appears our president's position is closer to yours than mine. We'll get to see the results of your plan soon enough.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: albeadle33
Pj, if you're a student of ANYTHING I'll do the jig and post it.


Nobody wants to see that. But lets all give a big round of applause to Albeadle. He used the word "jig" in a non-racist context.


You sure about that? Rob Singer's missing initials are KKK
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
What happens when you pick sides?
ISIS vows to attack Putin in Russia for providing weapons to Syria. Already on their way...

Ya know who ISIS has not threatened? Canada, Uruguay, Japan, <name any non-intervening country here>


Sounds like you would have been an isolationist during WWII. Sometimes vermin needs to be exterminated. If ISIS were to ever get powerful enough,they'd be setting sail for the USA and not to chase blow and hookers in Vegas.

Here is my cynical prediction. Russia invades Syria and Iraq to exterminate ISIS. Russia decides they might need to stick around a bit to keep things safe for Russians. The good news is a more stable world with less radical Muslim terrorism. The bad news is a return to the cold war.


I could live with that scenario, I'm not so positive it would be a return to the cold war tho, at least not in the naval barricade/Berlin wall variety. It would be nice to see the jjob get done on someone elses dime as well. I'm no authority on military matters but I have a feeling the russians don't play "nice war" IE no congressional oversight or liberal media to answer to.

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Originally posted by: snidely333
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: snidely333


If you're a student of history, you know that quite a few countries let Hitler do what he wanted in Europe because he had not threatened them. Eventually, what could have been a large problem turned into a gigantic problem. Better to stop an infestation in the early stages than to try to eliminate one after its grown and gotten more powerful.


I dont know which group are the Nazi's. Maybe they both are. And thats the problem. Unless Snidely thinks the US should Annex the conflicted areas and make them US States he should weigh in on what genocidal, crazy group he thinks is fit to rule the Middle East. ( It would appear he thinks its the same people that just got done using chemical weapons on their own people.)


Your position keeps changing with every post you make. And failed trying to put downs words I never said.

Your position is that we shouldn't do anything. It's an "over there" problem. My position is we start by killing the most dangerous ones and keep going until we find the people, and I"m confident they exist, that want to live peaceful lives. None of the genocidal crazy groups are fit to rule.


I think that's an impossibility. The fanaticism seems to breed more fanatics as it goes on. I just read an article about the number of positve jihadi twitter accounts has increased by 60,000 since the beheading of Foley, 20,000 since Sotloffs beheading. They're recruiting globally..and succeeding. Let Putin try and kill 'em off.


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