Vegas Free-for-All - "No Water, . . . No Peace"

"No Water, . . . No Peace"

jphelan

Jun 30, 2014
1:45pm

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Originally posted by: jatki99

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
Just for the record, DonDiego asked "What's the solution?" in total seriousness. He doesn't have a good answer. He can raise an objection to every answer he's come up with.

I know! I know! The answer is WaterCare. They could set up competitive water exchanges....and a State Web Site to help water consumers select the water plan that works best for them. Then, if some poor people don't make enough money to pay for their water plan, the state could subsidize their water plan.

Now, if you haven't paid for your water in years and owe the water works lots of money, we'll consider that a 'pre-exisitng' water condition and ignore it when you get your new WaterCare Plan.

Add in another 2000 pages of water legislation and 20,000 pages of water regulations and WaterCare will solve all of our water problems....even the pre-existing ones.

Alan Leroy for prez.!

Don't forget there could be a war on water.....

Dan Svatass

Jun 30, 2014
2:24pm

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Think i gotta go with the righties on this one. I think its pretty standard practice to turn off someones water, gas, telephone when the bills dont get paid. Probably everyone on this board knows someone thats had it happen to them. Drinking water costs money. Thats why you get a bill for it. Is the outrage in Detroit that the city does not offer free water to its residents? Seems a little outrageous. People are pissed about the governor's "emergency dipshit" that trumped the democratically elected local leaders. I get it....but you still gotta pay your water bill.

I don't think there's a right-left split on this, I too think that everyone who can pay these bills should pay them.

However, it does seem crazy that some people in Detroit have been paying more than 20% of their pretax income on water and sewer service. It shouldn't cost that much.

The average montly bill in Detroit is $75, almost double the national average of $40.

alanleroyII

Jun 30, 2014
2:39pm

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
However, it does seem crazy that some people in Detroit have been paying more than 20% of their pretax income on water and sewer service. It shouldn't cost that much.

The average montly bill in Detroit is $75, almost double the national average of $40.

Maybe that has something to do with the fact that the water infrastructure in Detroit was built and staffed to accommodate a city of 1.8 million in the 1950s and now there are less than 700,000 residents.

Dan Svatass

Jun 30, 2014
3:20pm

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That's right. Detroit is has become horrible in an amazing variety of ways.

The infrastructure can't be supported by the dwindling tax base. That's why there's an effort to consolidate people into a smaller footprint, so that resources aren't so spread out.

hoops2

Jul 1, 2014
1:57am

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"However, it does seem crazy that some people in Detroit have been paying more than 20% of their pretax income on water and sewer service. It shouldn't cost that much.

The average montly bill in Detroit is $75, almost double the national average of $40."

Based on the photo in your link it looks like if Nicole Hill cut back on her eating she could afford the water bill.

Based on your post where you say that people pay 20% of their income on their water bill but the average bill is $75, that would mean their income is $375 per month. Seems a little low

Boilerman

Jul 1, 2014
2:42am

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Hoops, $375 a month seems about right for many "low information voters". Don't forget that free Obamaphone.

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Originally posted by: hoops2
"However, it does seem crazy that some people in Detroit have been paying more than 20% of their pretax income on water and sewer service. It shouldn't cost that much.

The average montly bill in Detroit is $75, almost double the national average of $40."

Based on the photo in your link it looks like if Nicole Hill cut back on her eating she could afford the water bill.

Based on your post where you say that people pay 20% of their income on their water bill but the average bill is $75, that would mean their income is $375 per month. Seems a little low

motownbob

Jul 1, 2014
5:38am

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I did a little checking . From City-Data. com :

The median household income for 2009 for the city of Detroit was $26,098 . That of course , works out to an median monthly income of $2174.83 . A $75.00 water bill is an average of 3.4 % of income , a far cry from the poorly researched information provided by the LA Times . Of course , the median average means half are above , and half below the number . Which puts many , many households far below the 20 % number . Bob

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