Taliban Terrorist / American Soldier Swap

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Originally posted by: hoops2
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Army Times editorial:




I amsure the obama lackeys had nothing to do with that editorial
Using Senator Joseph McCarthy's terminology. How fitting.

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Originally posted by: hoops2
This entire mess started because there is a sect among people who believe in Islam that there is only 1 religion and anyone who does not believe in Islam should be killed. This belief has nothing to do with drone atacks, Iraq or Afghanistan


Who cares where the idea started? If a peace loving family has one of their own killed in a drone strike do you find it irrational for them to want some payback?
"Who cares where the idea started? If a peace loving family has one of their own killed in a drone strike do you find it irrational for them to want some payback? "

If the Islamists hadn't started attcking the so called non-believers, would we have attacked them? -NO

If the Islamists said they will stop their attacks will we attack them? -NO

If we said we would no longer attack the Islamists would they still attack us? - PROBABLY

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Originally posted by: hoops2

If the Islamists hadn't started attcking the so called non-believers, would we have attacked them?...
The United States started it.

  • The US engineered the overthrow of a democratically elected government in Iran and installed a Shah, who along with his heir, brutally oppressed Iranians for a quarter century.
  • The US supported despotic Arabic monarchs, even as they oppressed and killed their own people, just as long as they didn't oppress Standard Oil.
  • The US militarily and financially supported Saddam Hussein when he used poison gas to attack Iran and even his own people.
  • The US has unquestioningly supported Israel's expansionary and apartheid policies.
  • The US invaded and occupied Iraq for no legitimate reason, causing hundreds of thousands of deaths.

    How many terrorists do you think were inspired by the above?

    You could argue that the above actions were in our national interest. Trust me, the people who were oppressed, suffered, and watched their loved ones die, just don't care. The United States has earned their hatred.

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    Originally posted by: hoops2
    "Who cares where the idea started? If a peace loving family has one of their own killed in a drone strike do you find it irrational for them to want some payback? "

    If the Islamists hadn't started attcking the so called non-believers, would we have attacked them? -NO

    If the Islamists said they will stop their attacks will we attack them? -NO

    If we said we would no longer attack the Islamists would they still attack us? - PROBABLY


    Ummm.......So what? The end result is you create more terrorists any time you kill innocent people.

    Not all Islamists are terrorists....and not all Nevada Tea-Partiers are cop killers. Or do you disagree? Killing a non-militant member of either group would likely spark a change in their families' non-violent demeanor.
    The US engineered the overthrow of a democratically elected government in Iran and installed a Shah, who along with his heir, brutally oppressed Iranians for a quarter century. LIKE THE CURRENT ITANIAN GOVT IS A MODEL OF HUMANITARIANISM

    The US supported despotic Arabic monarchs, even as they oppressed and killed their own people, just as long as they didn't oppress Standard Oil. - SYRIA, LIBYA, IRAQ ARE MORE EXAMPLES OF KINDLY ARAB GOVTS

    The US militarily and financially supported Saddam Hussein when he used poison gas to attack Iran and even his own people. - IRAN IS JUST AS BAD. HUSSEIN ALSO GASSED HIS OWN PEOPLE

    The US has unquestioningly supported Israel's expansionary and apartheid policies. - THE US ALSO SUPPORTS ISRAEL AS THE ONLY LONG RUNNING DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST. NO CHRISTIANS ARE ALLOWED INPALESTINE, WHILE PALESTINIANS ARE ALLOWED TO LIVE & WORK IN ISRAEL. BY DESTROYING ISRAEL ISN'T THAT EXPANSIONIST?

    The US invaded and occupied Iraq for no legitimate reason, causing hundreds of thousands of deaths - THE UN VOTED TO INVADE, BASED ON HUSSEIN'S LONG STANDING CLAIM THAT HE WAS BUILDING NUCLEAR & POISON GAS. HE ALSO STARTED 2 WARS AND KILLED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF HIS OWN PEOPLE.
    "Not all Islamists are terrorists" Never said that, said it was a sect, but a very dangerous one. Do you think if the US started to tuen the cheek, attacks would stop? We did that in the 80's & 90's culminating in the Trade Ctr bombing
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    Originally posted by: hoops2
    "Not all Islamists are terrorists" Never said that, said it was a sect, but a very dangerous one. Do you think if the US started to tuen the cheek, attacks would stop? We did that in the 80's & 90's culminating in the Trade Ctr bombing


    No, terrorism will not have stopped. But you can point to cause-and-effect incidents throughout history. In fact, thats exactly what you are doing with this prisoner swap. Its Obama's fault for any future violence that may occur, right. But you dont apply the same logic to past cause-and-effect incidents as anyone can see from your last few posts.

    And thats why nobody can take you seriously when you chime in on this topic, Hoops. But thanks for chiming in anyway!
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    Originally posted by: hoops2
    The US engineered the overthrow of a democratically elected government in Iran and installed a Shah, who along with his heir, brutally oppressed Iranians for a quarter century. LIKE THE CURRENT ITANIAN GOVT IS A MODEL OF HUMANITARIANISM...
    So you're saying that when the United States destroyed the democratic Iranian government and installed the Shah - because oil - not only did it result in a quarter century of oppression and misery, but the subsequent rebound into fundamentalism and oppressive theocracy has continued the misery to this day.

    I have to agree.

    The US inspired their terrorism, and deserves their hatred. We started it.

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    Originally posted by: forkushV
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    Originally posted by: hoops2

    If the Islamists hadn't started attcking the so called non-believers, would we have attacked them?...
    The United States started it.

  • The US engineered the overthrow of a democratically elected government in Iran and installed a Shah, who along with his heir, brutally oppressed Iranians for a quarter century.
  • The US supported despotic Arabic monarchs, even as they oppressed and killed their own people, just as long as they didn't oppress Standard Oil.
  • The US militarily and financially supported Saddam Hussein when he used poison gas to attack Iran and even his own people.
  • The US has unquestioningly supported Israel's expansionary and apartheid policies.
  • The US invaded and occupied Iraq for no legitimate reason, causing hundreds of thousands of deaths.

    How many terrorists do you think were inspired by the above?

    You could argue that the above actions were in our national interest. Trust me, the people who were oppressed, suffered, and watched their loved ones die, just don't care. The United States has earned their hatred.


  • Unbelievably naive statement.
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