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Originally posted by: forkushV .... presided over the largest drop in the national debt in over 50 years, just like the Republicans say they want.

Yep. Your grasp on reality is amazing!

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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: forkushV .... presided over the largest drop in the national debt in over 50 years, just like the Republicans say they want.

Yep. Your grasp on reality is amazing!
BobOrme, here's a serious question. Where does your reality come from, when it comes to evaluating current events?

Unlike you, I have NO fear of answering that question. For me, it comes from trusted news sources. Like that Wall Street Journal:


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Originally posted by: forkushV
So imagine a Democratic president that . . . presided over the largest drop in the national debt in over 50 years, just like the Republicans say they want.

Indeed! One would have to imagine such a President.

Headline, CBS News. March 19 2012:
National Debt Has Increased More Under Obama Than Under Bush
Excerpts:
"The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.
If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his second term. That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his two terms."




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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV
So imagine a Democratic president that . . . presided over the largest drop in the national debt in over 50 years, just like the Republicans say they want.

Indeed! One would have to imagine such a President...
I misspoke. Obama has presided over the largest decline in the Deficit than has happened in the last 50 years. My graphic was on point. For 2013, it is plummeting like the downhill part of the NYNY Roller Coaster. (See - this post is now about Las Vegas.)





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Originally posted by: Tutontow
...I love them both but I am open minded enough to realize this country is made up of a very diverse population and compromise is the only way we are ever going to get anything done in Washington. Both sides need to be willing to give a little. Where are all of the great deal makers like Reagan and Clinton?...
So imagine a Democratic president that was willing to implement George W. Bush's immigration and NSA policies, Mitt Romney's and Bob Dole's health care policies, and presided over the largest drop in the deficit in over 50 years, just like the Republicans say they want.

That president is Barack Obama. So when it comes to being willing to compromise, Obama has been reasonable, and the other side has been pathological.

EDITED to correct previous error, making it 100% accurate. At this point, anyone who claims that Obama has been unwilling to negotiate on a large range of issues is either ignorant or dishonest. Possibly both.
In the short term the deficit has gone down due to the restoration of the normal ss tax rate, increased revenue due to obamacare taxes, increased income taxes & sequestration cuts, the same sequestration that Obama said was going to ruin the economy.

The govt will lose the benefit of the obamacare taxes as obamacare expenses now come in The same CBO that forky references is also projecting that due to entitlement spending will be back over $1t within 10 years.
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Originally posted by: hoops2
In the short term the deficit has gone down due to the restoration of the normal ss tax rate, increased revenue due to obamacare taxes, increased income taxes & sequestration cuts, the same sequestration that Obama said was going to ruin the economy.

The govt will lose the benefit of the obamacare taxes as obamacare expenses now come in The same CBO that forky references is also projecting that due to entitlement spending will be back over $1t within 10 years.
Well you and I should agree to disagree on whether that is manageable in a growing economy.

My real point here is that anyone who claims that Obama has been unwilling to negotiate on a large range of issues is either ignorant or dishonest. Possibly both.
Most people consider a 2% GDP growth a stagnant economy.

When obama calls the opposition party hostage takers and says he won't negotiate, it is hard to say he is willing to negotiate.
The bubble is building. When it explodes this time we are in for massive inflation and unemployment. The only growth we are seeing is in the energy sector (and associated companies) which Obama continues to attack (if the EPA gets it's way we can see that sector crumbling as well) and banking which is being supported by QE. It's only a matter of time.

Obama is hoping to boost revenue with a devastating carbon tax. Seems unlikely with the planet now cooling.
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