The Unaffordable Care Act

Ah, but only if it were socialism. Instead we got the Heritage Foundation’s corporate profits preservation plan. It was a bad idea when they purposed it, when Mitt Romney implemented it and it was a bad idea when Obama adopted it.

If it were socialism the 25 year old making 25k a year would pay $100 a month and there would be no co pays or deductibles. That’s the type of change I could have believed in.


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Originally posted by: drmilled
I see the reality of the asinine Obamacare is starting to sink in for the liberals Chilcoot and forkush. How do you like your Socialism now?


We've had socialized medicine for all since 1986, when President Reagan signed a law requiring all hospitals that take federal money (also known as ALL HOSPITALS) to give emergency treatment to all, even noncitizens, without regard to whether they can pay or not.



The law offers no funding to achieve this mandate, which raises the cost of health care for everyone who can pay.

As for seniors, veterans, and the disabled, well, you know how we socialized their care decades ago.
Yes and I kind of find it ironic since I am filing I might as well get my surgery. I am simply going to walk in the ER and fake the pain that is symptomatic of my condition. I’ll get the surgery and a bill for about 40k. I can’t wait till the hospital’s financial services person comes to my room and asks how I am going to pay for my bill. I am going to look her straight in the eye and say I have no intention of paying for it isn’t America great?

My new life’s work is going to be devoted to bringing about the collapse of the for profit health care system so we can join the rest of the civilized world.

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
We've had socialized medicine for all since 1986, when President Reagan signed a law requiring all hospitals that take federal money (also known as ALL HOSPITALS) to give emergency treatment to all, even noncitizens, without regard to whether they can pay or not.



The law offers no funding to achieve this mandate, which raises the cost of health care for everyone who can pay.

As for seniors, veterans, and the disabled, well, you know how we socialized their care decades ago.


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Originally posted by: malibber2
Again your ignoring my point which is actually getting sick on the Bronze plan is a fucking nightmare. You just want to keep arguing how cheap the premium is...
No, I've been arguing how wrong your premium estimates have been. Really, how do you make a 300% mistake?

Maybe your $1,000 a month number for the gold program is accurate this time, but I'd appreciate a link for obvious reasons.




If I knew the real number for my state I’d use it. The Republicans in my state are inflating it, but I won’t know what the real number is until the exchange goes online.

So ok I addressed that point. Now I know you’re a super smart guy that cares about folks do you honestly think a 25 year old making 25k walking around with an out of pocket number of $6,350 per-year plus whatever their premium costs is a workable solution?


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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: malibber2
Again your ignoring my point which is actually getting sick on the Bronze plan is a fucking nightmare. You just want to keep arguing how cheap the premium is...
No, I've been arguing how wrong your premium estimates have been. Really, how do you make a 300% mistake?

Maybe your $1,000 a month number for the gold program is accurate this time, but I'd appreciate a link for obvious reasons.


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Originally posted by: malibber2
Now I know you’re a super smart guy that cares about folks do you honestly think a 25 year old making 25k walking around with an out of pocket number of $6,350 per-year plus whatever their premium costs is a workable solution?
I definitely do.

Remember, only people who receive services pay out-of-pocket expenses. And to get to $6,350 in out-of-pocket for a year on a silver plan would have to have over $21,000 in expenses. That's unusual. And without insurance, that person has to pay it all.

And if he can't pay it, the rest of us do, when the hospital starts charging the rest of us $17 for Advil.

"I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future."
__President Barack Obama, September 2009

Oh, . . . by the way, . . . the Congressional Budget Office now calculates that Obamacare will be running a deficit by 2016, . . . and the deficit will total approximately 180-billion dimes by the end of this decade.
Ref: Investor's Business Daily

DonDiego is shocked. But he will likely get over it.

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
"I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future."
__President Barack Obama, September 2009

Oh, . . . by the way, . . . the Congressional Budget Office now calculates that Obamacare will be running a deficit by 2016, . . . and the deficit will total approximately 180-billion dimes by the end of this decade.
Ref: Investor's Business Daily

DonDiego is shocked. But he will likely get over it.
The CBO said no such thing according to your link. You should correct the record.

Originally posted by: DonDiego
"I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future."
__President Barack Obama, September 2009 ----- I would like to know just how much longer Chilcoot and forkush will defend this liar?
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Originally posted by: drmilled
Originally posted by: DonDiego
"I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits — either now or in the future."
__President Barack Obama, September 2009 ----- I would like to know just how much longer Chilcoot and forkush will defend this liar?
I'm certainly NOT accusing DonDiego of lying. I think he probably made a mistake.
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