What is a Burst vein?

The Botched execution in Oklahoma is blamed on a burst vein. What is a burst vein and what causes it?
As long as the guy died, it wasn't botched in my book.


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Originally posted by: cjen3349
The Botched execution in Oklahoma is blamed on a burst vein. What is a burst vein and what causes it?


No sympathy at all for the guy. He buried one of his victims alive.
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Originally posted by: cjen3349
The Botched execution in Oklahoma is blamed on a burst vein. What is a burst vein and what causes it?


Bad stick, needle tip partially or wholely outside the vein. Lousy veins, veins that roll. Daily event in labs and hospitals. If vein is small, pushing the drug too fast could 'blow' a vein. If the drug is potassium (to stop the heart) would sting like hell. Sedation drug (given first) may not have gotten to max effect. I really don't know what happened in OK, though.


I’ don’t buy that Oklahoma officials are telling the truth. They were experimenting with a new drug combination that has never been used before to perform an execution. They also refuse to reveal where they got the drug from even omitting it from state records so it can’t be discovered. Really a sick spectacle if you ask me. Oklahoma shouldn’t be in the business of torturing people to death.

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
No sympathy at all for the guy. He buried one of his victims alive.


I agree about not giving a shit about the dude in the chair...but it should be alarming that these lethal injections aren't doing their job. If that guy would have survived he would have had a strong case for being released on account of cruel and unusual punishment.

I'm not a bio-chemisit...but seriously, how hard is it to make a drug that will kill someone? Whatever happened to cyanide?
His estate will have million dollar+ case for cruel and unusual punishment. In the botched execution a few months prior the convict’s family has already filed suit.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
No sympathy at all for the guy. He buried one of his victims alive.


I agree about not giving a shit about the dude in the chair...but it should be alarming that these lethal injections aren't doing their job. If that guy would have survived he would have had a strong case for being released on account of cruel and unusual punishment.

I'm not a bio-chemisit...but seriously, how hard is it to make a drug that will kill someone? Whatever happened to cyanide?


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Whatever happened to cyanide?
Lethal Injection has become the preferred method of execution in most States. In fact, the gas chamber is not the prime method of execution in any State, although three States authorize it under specific circumstances.
__Arizona authorizes lethal injection for persons sentenced after 11/15/92; those sentenced before that date may select lethal injection or lethal gas.
__Missouri authorizes lethal injection or lethal gas; the statute leaves unclear who decides what method to use, the inmate or the Director of the Missouri Department of Corrections.
__Wyoming authorizes lethal injection but specifically authorizes cyanide gas if lethal injection is ever held to be unconstitutional.

The last person executed in the Gas Chamber in the United States was German national Walter LaGrand, sentenced to death before 1992, who was executed in Arizona on March 3, 1999.

crimelibrary.com offers The Lethal History of the Gas Chamber, which suggests the Gas Chamber was less humane than its adherents claimed. [e.g. Arizona’s execution method had been hanging until 1930 when a condemned woman was accidentally decapitated. That incident led Arizona to adopt the gas chamber in 1933 because proponents argued it was more humane.] Maybe they're just exaggerating.
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Whatever happened to cyanide?
Lethal Injection has become the preferred method of execution in most States. In fact, the gas chamber is not the prime method of execution in any State, although three States authorize it under specific circumstances.
__Arizona authorizes lethal injection for persons sentenced after 11/15/92; those sentenced before that date may select lethal injection or lethal gas.
__Missouri authorizes lethal injection or lethal gas; the statute leaves unclear who decides what method to use, the inmate or the Director of the Missouri Department of Corrections.
__Wyoming authorizes lethal injection but specifically authorizes cyanide gas if lethal injection is ever held to be unconstitutional.

The last person executed in the Gas Chamber in the United States was German national Walter LaGrand, sentenced to death before 1992, who was executed in Arizona on March 3, 1999.

crimelibrary.com offers The Lethal History of the Gas Chamber, which suggests the Gas Chamber was less humane than its adherents claimed. [e.g. Arizona’s execution method had been hanging until 1930 when a condemned woman was accidentally decapitated. That incident led Arizona to adopt the gas chamber in 1933 because proponents argued it was more humane.] Maybe they're just exaggerating.


How many states use the tried and true wood chipper?

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Originally posted by: melonhead
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Whatever happened to cyanide?
Lethal Injection has become the preferred method of execution in most States. In fact, the gas chamber is not the prime method of execution in any State, although three States authorize it under specific circumstances.
__Arizona authorizes lethal injection for persons sentenced after 11/15/92; those sentenced before that date may select lethal injection or lethal gas.
__Missouri authorizes lethal injection or lethal gas; the statute leaves unclear who decides what method to use, the inmate or the Director of the Missouri Department of Corrections.
__Wyoming authorizes lethal injection but specifically authorizes cyanide gas if lethal injection is ever held to be unconstitutional.

The last person executed in the Gas Chamber in the United States was German national Walter LaGrand, sentenced to death before 1992, who was executed in Arizona on March 3, 1999.

crimelibrary.com offers The Lethal History of the Gas Chamber, which suggests the Gas Chamber was less humane than its adherents claimed. [e.g. Arizona’s execution method had been hanging until 1930 when a condemned woman was accidentally decapitated. That incident led Arizona to adopt the gas chamber in 1933 because proponents argued it was more humane.] Maybe they're just exaggerating.


How many states use the tried and true wood chipper?

Some say "not enough".

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