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Will someone explain the dropping gun violence in Virginia?

melonhead
melonhead
Apr 25, 2014
10:55am
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Originally posted by: esteskefauver
Who needs to rob anybody and risk going to jail when Obama is giving you all the welfare you need. By the end of his term that SOB will be giving away so much we may be at record low crime rates.


And the hate just keeps coming....

forkushV
forkushV
Apr 25, 2014
4:54pm
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Let's see if Forkie will answer this question, since he's dodged every other. If concealed carry laws would lead to fewer deaths in America, would Forkie support concealed carry laws?...
If concealed carry laws caused fewer deaths, yes I would support them.

But you'd have to be a complete moron to support concealed laws carry because they are correlated with fewer deaths. The dimwits who think that correlation equals causation should limit their voting to American Idol and should be urged to never ever procreate. Can we all agree on that?

Boilerman
Boilerman
Apr 25, 2014
9:41pm
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Since 1991 when American gun violence peaked, 24 states have added concealed carry laws and eac of those 24 states have enjoyed lower gun crime rates. The states with with strongest anti-gun laws are California, Illinois, Wisconsin, New York, New Jersey, Deleware and Maryland.

Will Forkie be kind enough to tell us about the history of gun crime rates in these states since 1991?




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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Let's see if Forkie will answer this question, since he's dodged every other. If concealed carry laws would lead to fewer deaths in America, would Forkie support concealed carry laws?...
If concealed carry laws caused fewer deaths, yes I would support them.

But you'd have to be a complete moron to support concealed laws carry because they are correlated with fewer deaths. The dimwits who think that correlation equals causation should limit their voting to American Idol and should be urged to never ever procreate. Can we all agree on that?


forkushV
forkushV
Apr 26, 2014
5:11am
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Since 1991 when American gun violence peaked, 24 states have added concealed carry laws and eac of those 24 states have enjoyed lower gun crime rates...
I guess you missed this part of what I wrote:

"But you'd have to be a complete moron to support concealed laws carry because they are correlated with fewer deaths. The dimwits who think that correlation equals causation should limit their voting to American Idol and should be urged to never ever procreate. Can we all agree on that?"


chefantwon
chefantwon
Apr 26, 2014
10:53am
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Since 1991 when American gun violence peaked, 24 states have added concealed carry laws and eac of those 24 states have enjoyed lower gun crime rates...
I guess you missed this part of what I wrote:

"But you'd have to be a complete moron to support concealed laws carry because they are correlated with fewer deaths. The dimwits who think that correlation equals causation should limit their voting to American Idol and should be urged to never ever procreate. Can we all agree on that?"


I wonder if that applies to all those deaths in Chicago where they have some of the strictist gun laws around. I thought they could not have guns in the city? So what is killing all those people, flys?
jatki
jatki
Apr 27, 2014
1:02am
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Originally posted by: chefantwon
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Since 1991 when American gun violence peaked, 24 states have added concealed carry laws and eac of those 24 states have enjoyed lower gun crime rates...
I guess you missed this part of what I wrote:

"But you'd have to be a complete moron to support concealed laws carry because they are correlated with fewer deaths. The dimwits who think that correlation equals causation should limit their voting to American Idol and should be urged to never ever procreate. Can we all agree on that?"


I wonder if that applies to all those deaths in Chicago where they have some of the strictist gun laws around. I thought they could not have guns in the city? So what is killing all those people, flys?


Chicago does seem to be the poster child of failed gun laws and how it has the opposite affect of there intentions. One has to be a total moron to say otherwise.

forkushV
forkushV
Apr 27, 2014
2:35am
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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: chefantwon
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Since 1991 when American gun violence peaked, 24 states have added concealed carry laws and eac of those 24 states have enjoyed lower gun crime rates...
I guess you missed this part of what I wrote:

"But you'd have to be a complete moron to support concealed laws carry because they are correlated with fewer deaths. The dimwits who think that correlation equals causation should limit their voting to American Idol and should be urged to never ever procreate. Can we all agree on that?"


I wonder if that applies to all those deaths in Chicago where they have some of the strictist gun laws around. I thought they could not have guns in the city? So what is killing all those people, flys?


Chicago does seem to be the poster child of failed gun laws and how it has the opposite affect of there intentions. One has to be a total moron to say otherwise.
And in New York City they are working quite well*.

See, that's the problem with correlation equals causation claims: one counter-example makes you look like a ninny.


* No, I don't really make childish claims of proof like that. I'll leave that to the right-wingers on this site.
chefantwon
chefantwon
Apr 27, 2014
9:45am
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: chefantwon
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Since 1991 when American gun violence peaked, 24 states have added concealed carry laws and eac of those 24 states have enjoyed lower gun crime rates...
I guess you missed this part of what I wrote:

"But you'd have to be a complete moron to support concealed laws carry because they are correlated with fewer deaths. The dimwits who think that correlation equals causation should limit their voting to American Idol and should be urged to never ever procreate. Can we all agree on that?"


I wonder if that applies to all those deaths in Chicago where they have some of the strictist gun laws around. I thought they could not have guns in the city? So what is killing all those people, flys?


Chicago does seem to be the poster child of failed gun laws and how it has the opposite affect of there intentions. One has to be a total moron to say otherwise.
And in New York City they are working quite well*.

See, that's the problem with correlation equals causation claims: one counter-example makes you look like a ninny.


* No, I don't really make childish claims of proof like that. I'll leave that to the right-wingers on this site.


You are forgetting that the police presence in the city is much higher than it was back in the 1970's. However, just wait the new mayor is just starting to undo all of the progress that made since the 1970's. The crime rate is sure to start going up....
Boilerman
Boilerman
Apr 28, 2014
11:30am
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The only thing more effective than strong concealed carry laws are stop and search. You know, just like the type used in New York City. The stop the folks who look like what most of the crooks, and they catch lots of crooks.


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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: chefantwon
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Since 1991 when American gun violence peaked, 24 states have added concealed carry laws and eac of those 24 states have enjoyed lower gun crime rates...
I guess you missed this part of what I wrote:

"But you'd have to be a complete moron to support concealed laws carry because they are correlated with fewer deaths. The dimwits who think that correlation equals causation should limit their voting to American Idol and should be urged to never ever procreate. Can we all agree on that?"


I wonder if that applies to all those deaths in Chicago where they have some of the strictist gun laws around. I thought they could not have guns in the city? So what is killing all those people, flys?


Chicago does seem to be the poster child of failed gun laws and how it has the opposite affect of there intentions. One has to be a total moron to say otherwise.
And in New York City they are working quite well*.

See, that's the problem with correlation equals causation claims: one counter-example makes you look like a ninny.


* No, I don't really make childish claims of proof like that. I'll leave that to the right-wingers on this site.


snidely333
snidely333
Apr 29, 2014
1:39am
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
The only thing more effective than strong concealed carry laws are stop and search. You know, just like the type used in New York City. The stop the folks who look like what most of the crooks, and they catch lots of crooks.


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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: chefantwon
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Since 1991 when American gun violence peaked, 24 states have added concealed carry laws and eac of those 24 states have enjoyed lower gun crime rates...
I guess you missed this part of what I wrote:

"But you'd have to be a complete moron to support concealed laws carry because they are correlated with fewer deaths. The dimwits who think that correlation equals causation should limit their voting to American Idol and should be urged to never ever procreate. Can we all agree on that?"


I wonder if that applies to all those deaths in Chicago where they have some of the strictist gun laws around. I thought they could not have guns in the city? So what is killing all those people, flys?


Chicago does seem to be the poster child of failed gun laws and how it has the opposite affect of there intentions. One has to be a total moron to say otherwise.
And in New York City they are working quite well*.

See, that's the problem with correlation equals causation claims: one counter-example makes you look like a ninny.


* No, I don't really make childish claims of proof like that. I'll leave that to the right-wingers on this site.


The ends don't justify the means.
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