Vegas Free-for-All - Your tax dollars at work

esteskefauver

Sep 9, 2013
6:45am

Clowns like this making $145k per year to take more from society than they give is what this country has come to.

https://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2013/09/msu_notes.html

Dan Svatass

Sep 9, 2013
7:00am

Block User

Great point, this one terrible educator out of a couple million totally reflects our entire society.

Stay outraged, esteskefauver!

esteskefauver

Sep 9, 2013
7:25am

Block User

You're right. One man's rant doesn't mean squat. But, then I think of the small city of Bell, CA paying $500k-800k per year to a few employees. I think of the fact that people are dropping out of the work force in record numbers and that food stamp usage has exploded. I think of Detroit filing bankruptcy and Chicago starting down that road. I think of Obamacare and how it deincentivizes work and the brunt of that bad law hasn't even manifested yet. I think of the decline in the value of a college degree in the last few years and how millions of people are defaulting on student loans. I could think some more, but I'm tired of thinking about how badly this country has declined. I'll just get back to work.

Dan Svatass

Sep 9, 2013
7:47am

Block User

Again, great points. What we're seeing now is totally new and unprecedented.

By the way, just as a point of reference, how'd in God's name did you get through Watergate, Vietnam, Jim Crow, Travelgate, the Whiskey Ring, Black Tuesday, ABSCAM, the Indian Removal Act of 1830, and Teapot Dome? You know, back in the glorious olden days when everything was totally perfect.

forkushV

Sep 9, 2013
8:07am

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Originally posted by: esteskefauver
You're right. One man's rant doesn't mean squat. But, then I think of the small city of Bell, CA paying $500k-800k per year to a few employees. I think of the fact that people are dropping out of the work force in record numbers and that food stamp usage has exploded. I think of Detroit filing bankruptcy and Chicago starting down that road. I think of Obamacare and how it deincentivizes work and the brunt of that bad law hasn't even manifested yet. I think of the decline in the value of a college degree in the last few years and how millions of people are defaulting on student loans. I could think some more, but I'm tired of thinking about how badly this country has declined. I'll just get back to work.

You're describing the collapse of the middle class in the United States. And why has it collapsed?

From 1947 to 1979, worker productivity went up 119%, and pay went up 100%.

Since 1980, productivity has gone up 80%, and pay has gone up only 8%.

How's that working out?

Tutontow

Sep 9, 2013
10:04am

Block User

Don't forget the civil war and the Iran Contra affair. Can you imagine the uproar when the government came in and said that personal property of yours (slaves) no longer belongs to you. And we all know that Social Security and Medicare was going to bankrupt the country within five years. I wonder how many people would be willing to give up social security and medicare?

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Again, great points. What we're seeing now is totally new and unprecedented.

By the way, just as a point of reference, how'd in God's name did you get through Watergate, Vietnam, Jim Crow, Travelgate, the Whiskey Ring, Black Tuesday, ABSCAM, the Indian Removal Act of 1830, and Teapot Dome? You know, back in the glorious olden days when everything was totally perfect.

bbking

Sep 9, 2013
11:42am

Block User

Yep.Our tax dollars at work

Congressman Stephan Fincher(R-TN),who is also a farmer,gets $3.5 million dollars in subsidies from the federal governmant.And the farm bill that House Republicans ,including Fincher-supportwould increase farm subsidies by $9 billion while cutting food stamps by $21 billion over the next ten years.

Talk about clowns.

BAGIANT

Sep 9, 2013
1:23pm

Block User

I used to play poker in Bell, CA when they had a poker room. Knew the owner!

Dan Svatass

Sep 9, 2013
2:03pm

Block User

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Originally posted by: BAGIANT
I used to play poker in Bell, CA when they had a poker room. Knew the owner!

nemesis

Sep 9, 2013
8:40pm

Block User

You have a point Chillcoot. However, I would remind you that the country was not all but bankrupt and creating money out of thin air at an alarming rate and 17 trillion dollars in debt when any of those things occurred. I remember most of those.

How do you propose, in all your wonderful, perfect wisdom, full of charts and graphs, that we pay off a 17 TRILLION dollar debt?

Just saying.

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