I received a postcard from the M where they are trying to get new players. The promo was:
- I get $100 in free play right away for bringing in a new player,
- The new player also gets $100 in free play — plus a kiosk spin (usually $5 in free play, I think, but it could be more),
- For every point the new player earns in the first day, I get 10x points, up to a total of 50,000 points,
- Good (if you got the postcard and the new player has NEVER had a card at the M) from June 1 to July 31.
The slot club is 0.3% (slightly more, actually, because they give you $3 for $999 coin-in rather than $3 for $1,000 coin-in). 50,000 points is worth $150 of free play — which is way more than the house’s expected win if you’re playing the best machines.
The loosest game is $2 9/6 Jacks or Better. There are two such machines — newly installed — in the high limit room. There is no choice as to the denomination and no telling how long they’ll last. 10x points (which is worth 3%) on top of a video poker game returning 99.54% seemed possibly like a mistake, except that it was limited to $150 max which might be a reasonable cost for a new player.
I don’t actually know if this was a mistake or not. I hooked up with a player friend, “Kevin,” who lives near Aliante — which makes the M geographically undesirable for him. Which is why he didn’t already have a card. I know some non-players for whom I technically could have played the free play, but that’s strongly against the rules there and I’m well known. No thanks. If I had to use a non-player, I would have let them play and talked them through their $105 in free play — which we would probably have played on 25¢ 8/5 Aces Bonus. If they were a non-player, any possible W2G could have been a problem for them.
As it happened, June 1 was a normal free-play pick-up day for me (they have 6 to 7 such days per month). Kevin and I agreed to go in and play the promotion on the first day it was active.
We were certainly not going to ask for clarification as to whether the 10x points included video poker or not. The booth personnel (who are also the cashiers) would likely have said, “I don’t know. Let me make a phone call.” If they did that, it’s possible that signs would have been posted saying “slots only.” If we could arrange it, we didn’t want such signs posted until after we played.
Our deal was, we would play the promotion and also play an additional 850 points which entitled us to a “free” lunch buffet. Other than the amount of my free play, we split everything based on my $850 worth of play and his $5,850. Whether this split was overly generous or not didn’t concern me. Kevin is a friend. And enjoying lunch together was part of the attraction of the “date.”
I often play for a buffet on my free -play pickup days there. There have been incidents where players who only picked up free-play without any additional play were punished for this. As a known professional player, I am hyper-sensitive about creating situations where it would be easy for them to justify restricting me.
The $205 in free play we got between the two of us more than covered the expected loss of playing $5,850 for him and $850 for me. If we got the additional $150, great, but it was still a decent play if we didn’t. (And yes, we could have lost, but the decision beforehand is made based on EV, because you don’t know what your actual result is going to be.)
I had him play $5,850 rather than just $5,000 because the M usually doesn’t allow you to “double dip.” If there’s a gift of the day you can get for 800 points and you also want the free buffet, it takes 1,650 to earn both. We only had one shot at this and if they decided to give us 10x points on only 4,150 points (which would be 5,000-850), that would cost us $28. No thanks.
We didn’t split the $150 on the day we played because I wasn’t certain whether or not we were going to get it. It could be that they “intended” it to say “slots only,” but they didn’t put that in writing. How it would be enforced down the road was an open question.
I hadn’t decided how aggressively to pursue the 10x points if they denied that it applied to video poker. It was “only” $150 (split between two of us) and you need to pick your battles. In a somewhat similar situation at the Silverton I wrote about a few months ago, we were talking about an $8,000 difference between getting the multiple points or not. I’m willing to fight a lot harder for $8,000 than I am for half of $150.
Eight days after we played, I received an email saying that 50,000 points had been placed on my card, so I sent my friend an email saying that I owed him $75 next time we saw each other.
I never had to decide how hard to argue for this. It’s possible that future players will be told “slots only” when they sign up. I don’t know. But this was a case of taking advantage of the situation before they made changes to it. If they keep the promotion “as is,” then whether we did it early or not doesn’t matter. If they restrict it later to slots only, it matters $150 worth. For me it was a no brainer to do it as early as possible.

Good article, and it covers the fine points of analyzing a “play” or “no play.” Very helpful. One of the finer points covered here which I have not read about anywhere else is maintaining a healthy working relationship with a casino.
Good article, even better for me to be able to read another one based on the M Resort. It is nice to hear that the M Resort put in two 9/6 Jacks or Better recently as well as some low denomination ones which have games looser than the 8/5 ACE$ Bonus.
I assume the rules say either 1 friend limit or a combined 5000 points worth of play spread among multiple new club members, otherwise I imagine you guys would have brought in many people. Though it may not be the main point of the article, I also see the importance of not joining as many slot clubs early on. It would be best to wait for lucrative new member promotions like the one mentioned to join the club.
An hour of play (670 $2 denomination rounds – 585 under Kevin and 85 for Mr. Dancer) and a lunch at the Studio B Buffet makes for an good enjoyable afternoon in my book
Without going into too much detail this is a good play for both parties. The back-end will be good for the new player (probably better than the return for the referrer) so they should have no problem convincing someone to sign-up.
Suddenly I think my wife now needs an M card.
Frank’s right. There is a back end. We were unsure if there would be because “Kevin” hit an $8,000 royal during his $5,955 in play (including the free play for which you don’t earn points) — which would eliminate the back end at some shops. But Kevin says he got some mailers, which is a good sign M is looking long term and not concentrating on the short term result.
Insofar as whether Frank’s wife needs an M card — this promotion is probably only good if Frank got a postcard inviting him to this promotion. If he didn’t, he and his wife probably aren’t eligible..
This is a good article into understanding how you go about breaking down each piece of the offer and the relationship between the casino and the customer they give offers to. Thanks. I enjoy that perspective.
Out of curiosity, how much physical mail does the Dancer house get from casinos?
Congrats to “Kevin”. 2 buds got to spend time together while experiencing a profitable day.
I live near Southpoint and my wife and I play the 5 cent 50 play there. I regularly attend your classes. Thinking of having a backup play avaliable and based on your article that the M might be a good place. Neither my wife or me have had a card at the M. How would you recommend we approach getting established at the M?
Thinking maybe getting card for my wife and both of us playing on her card like we do at Southpoint.
The casinos are physically close to each other — but very different.
South Point has much better video poker. M gives bigger mailers, food offers, gifts, and frequent double points. Do the better benefits at the M make up for the lesser games? Different people come to different conclusions on that. I, for one, play at both places.
It’s part of the South Point slot club rules that husbands and wives may play on each other’s cards. In the early days of the M, when it was owned by Anthony Marnell III, players who played on their spouse’s card were kicked out for it. Whether that policy has changed now that the casino is owned by Penn National Gaming, I don’t know. Personally, I wouldn’t risk it without checking with the Player’s Club first.
Does the M have their own players card or is it the Marquee Rewards card that the other PNG casinos use? And if it’s separate, do they plan on switching to the Marquee Rewards?
The M Resort uses the Marquee Rewards card that can be used at other PNG properties (Hollywood Casino chains). They used to have their own until they switched over shortly after the PNG acquisition which happened years ago.