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Nines
Nines
Apr 30, 2023
1:22pm
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Originally posted by: tom

S governmentTh1

 

What is alleged the grammar expert saying?

 

The second reason is that historically, the US government has been able to borrow funds at a lower cost than any other entity in the world.

 

What happens when that doesn't happen anymore?  What happens when the tax revenue can't even cover the interest; which is where we re headed

 

The fourth reason is that several times in recent history, government refusal to spend (and borrow) has exacerbated a crisis.

 

Example?

 

So far nobody has been able to find where the subject of this thread is mentioned in the bill.

 

SS & Medicare is not being cut.  There are administrative cuts & raising the age.

 

Apparently the usual suspects are in favor of paying able bodied adults not to work.  Biden at one time voted for work requirements; although he probably can't remember that.

 

What is wrong with bringing back spending to 2022 levels & capping future expenditures to 1% growth?

Tom..There's nothing wrong with your last sentence's suggestion..because it represents a 'start' in reigning in excessive govt spending. I'd personally support more than that but I don't have a meaningful vote beyond the ballet box.

Kevin Lewis
Kevin Lewis
Apr 30, 2023
1:23pm
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Originally posted by: tom

S governmentTh1

 

What is alleged the grammar expert saying?

 

The second reason is that historically, the US government has been able to borrow funds at a lower cost than any other entity in the world.

 

What happens when that doesn't happen anymore?  What happens when the tax revenue can't even cover the interest; which is where we re headed

 

The fourth reason is that several times in recent history, government refusal to spend (and borrow) has exacerbated a crisis.

 

Example?

 

So far nobody has been able to find where the subject of this thread is mentioned in the bill.

 

SS & Medicare is not being cut.  There are administrative cuts & raising the age.

 

Apparently the usual suspects are in favor of paying able bodied adults not to work.  Biden at one time voted for work requirements; although he probably can't remember that.

 

What is wrong with bringing back spending to 2022 levels & capping future expenditures to 1% growth?

Raising the qualifying age IS a cut. As in, down to zero for someone who would have qualified but no longer does.

 

Stupid Tommie-poo.

Kevin Lewis
Kevin Lewis
Apr 30, 2023
1:28pm
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Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

Tom..There's nothing wrong with your last sentence's suggestion..because it represents a 'start' in reigning in excessive govt spending. I'd personally support more than that but I don't have a meaningful vote beyond the ballet box.

Well then, why not bring back spending to 1903 levels? The past was better, right? Bedrock conservative philosophy?

 

Obviously, government spending has to increase at the same pace as population levels just to maintain the same level of services. (DUH.)

 

Capping government expenditures at some arbitrary number is pretending to be able to predict the future and the needs of the public.

 

Of course, all this nattering is in support of the conservative falsity, "Gummint spendin' am bad."

Nines
Nines
Apr 30, 2023
1:37pm
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Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Well then, why not bring back spending to 1903 levels? The past was better, right? Bedrock conservative philosophy?

 

Obviously, government spending has to increase at the same pace as population levels just to maintain the same level of services. (DUH.)

 

Capping government expenditures at some arbitrary number is pretending to be able to predict the future and the needs of the public.

 

Of course, all this nattering is in support of the conservative falsity, "Gummint spendin' am bad."

They tossed you out of Oregon, and now you're on a Continental Trailways bus headed through Mississippi and Alabama. Turn left ( a natural tendency for you) or jump out before you cross the Florida state line..just a friendly recommendation.


Kevin Lewis
Kevin Lewis
Apr 30, 2023
1:38pm
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Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

You'll have to convince somebody else that a balanced federal budget isn't desirable. The current 2023 interest due on our debt alone is about $650B..but few , if any, in DC are looking at that ledger sheet line item among numerous others. Real life simple math for average citizens dictates that they generally spend less than they earn / take in, or alternatively file for bankruptcy or assume another loan repayment expense they possibly can't pay for. Why can't the US Govt with all those highly educated lawyers figure that basic survival tenet out? It's as if some AI robot is running the joint..and it makes repetitive mistakes. I know..it's far more complicated than that..I just wonder why? Admittedly, I've never been able to figure out Congressional math..they've adulterated 2 + 2 math logic. I don't have any delusions that it will ever change , though. My scalp fire is out now...so am I. 

Actually, the average citizen spends more than he earns--if you count debt, which you should. The average citizen is in the hole for far more than his earnings will cover--mortgage, car loan(s), credit cards, etc. Why is that not a terrible thing, and the earth hasn't spiraled into the sun, as conservatives assure us it will? Because in many contexts and situations, debt makes sense--for individuals, companies, and governments.

 

Simple example--would you take out a loan at 6% interest to purchase an asset which will appreciate at 9% annually? Of course you would. It would be foolish not to! Debt not bad! Debt be good!

 

Conservatives don't mind when the big corporations to which they have assigned control of our society carry debt on their books that dwarfs their yearly profits. They also don't mind slashing government revenues--WHICH CREATES DEBT--to appease those corporations. They only mind when money goes to social programs--then it's (drum roll) "wasteful spending."

 

And after all, why should I put off repainting my yacht just to keep them darkies alive?

Boilerman
Boilerman
Apr 30, 2023
1:45pm
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Kevin's continued arguement is to buy now pay later.  This policy is unsustainable.

Edited on Apr 30, 2023 1:45pm
tom
tom
Apr 30, 2023
2:16pm
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Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Raising the qualifying age IS a cut. As in, down to zero for someone who would have qualified but no longer does.

 

Stupid Tommie-poo.

Stupid Kevin, if the person isn't receiving the benefit it isn't a cut. 

Financing a long  term producing asset is different than borrowing money just to finance short term lifestyle. 

The current problem, due to inflation & declining real wages is that people are borrowing to pay their current bills. Eventually their credit will bd tapped out & the economy will be in trouble. 

 

 

PJ Stroh
PJ Stroh
Apr 30, 2023
2:16pm
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Boilerman and Tom think its a good idea for Republicans to hold the full faith and credit of the UNited States hostage  in order to bypass negotating their bill through the budgeting process.    And somehow they think thats a winning issue for them.    Just like they think the the abortion law roll back is a winning issue.

 

Boilerman and Tom are in for a rude awakening.

tom
tom
Apr 30, 2023
2:48pm
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Actually it is biden & his puppet masters holding it hostage, since he won't negotiate.  In 2011 he negotiated a deal while vp

PJ Stroh
PJ Stroh
Apr 30, 2023
3:18pm
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Originally posted by: tom

Actually it is biden & his puppet masters holding it hostage, since he won't negotiate.  In 2011 he negotiated a deal while vp

SHow me when Republicans "negotiated" paying for legislation that already occured when Trump was in office....and then you'd still have a bad argument but at least you wouldnt be a hypocrite.    Same for everyone in your party.

 

And if you think America sees it the same hypocritical way you do then you should see who they blamed when Republicans did this same bullshit under Obama.   

 

 

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