217 Repugs voted to....

The budget is $5.7T.  In liberal world there isn't a single $ of waste

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Kevin's continued arguement is to buy now pay later.  This policy is unsustainable.


Yeah, no one ever borrows or loans money.

So change the budget in the budgeting process.   What does that have to do with the money that was already agreed upon in past legislation?

 

And you better look at some of the "free shit" thats in the Republican bill before you start lecturing about waste.

 

 

Edited on Apr 30, 2023 6:15pm
Originally posted by: Charles Higgins

They tossed you out of Oregon, and now you're on a Continental Trailways bus headed through Mississippi and Alabama. Turn left ( a natural tendency for you) or jump out before you cross the Florida state line..just a friendly recommendation.


Nah, I'm still here. In LIBBURUL Oregon, where we do things conservitards don't approve of. Stay out, for your own good.


In Liberal World, money spent to make people's lives better isn't wasted. Money to help nonwhite people isn't wasted. In Conservative World, those are criminal wastes of money.

 

In Conservative World, money spent to make big corporations richer is the only thing that isn't a waste.

 

Stupid Tommie-poo is getting senile. I feel sorry for him as his brain turns to cottage cheese.

Edited on Apr 30, 2023 6:19pm
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

I dont have a problem with Republicans putting forward an agenda of spending goals.  Thats why we have a budgeting process.  They won the House so they get to put forward a budget.  Thats fine.  But thats not what this is.

 

They are threatening to not pay for legislation that has already been passed unless their new legislation can take its place.    And both the president and the Senate should politely raise their middle finger.  And so should you.

 

8 years of Obama and Republicans held the debt ceiling hostage under the same pretense.   4 years of Trump and they grant unconditional debt ceiling raises.   And now we get to go back to the Obama game.      I guess Republicans think playing with our national credit is a winning issue for them.    Good luck.

 

 


Of course your senile hero Joe Biden opposed raising the debt limit 3 times as a senator.  I imagine he's forgotten about that..and so have you..  Fucking hypocrite much?  

 

"My vote against the debt limit increase cannot change the fact that we have incurred this debt already, and will no doubt incur more," Senator Biden said following his "nay" vote in 2006. "It is a statement that I refuse to be associated with the policies that brought us to this point."

 

Let's not forget little Chuckie Schumer

 

NOW: SENATE MAJORITY LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “As default gets closer and closer to becoming a reality, our Republican colleagues will be forced to ask themselves how long they are going to keep playing political games while the economic stability of our country is at risk.” 

 

THEN: “Schumer was one of the 44 Democrats who, in a party-line vote, voted against raising the debt limit in 2006. That year, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee -- which Schumer chaired -- aired attack ads against Ohio’s Mike DeWine [R-OH]. ‘Did you know Mike DeWine voted to raise the national debt to $9 trillion?’ the ad’s narrator asks puzzled and alarmed Cincinnatians. ‘Did you know that we’re borrowing $2 billion a day from China and other countries to pay for that?’”

 

It's time for Biden and the Democrats to sit down with the Republicans and negotiate the common sense proposals the House has put forward.  Note that the Republicans did in fact pass a debt ceiling increase.  The Democrats just aren't happy with it.  If the Democats reject it without negotiation, then the default's on them, no?

In Liberal World, money spent to make people's lives better isn't wasted

 

If you google government waste you get 685,000 hits.  Here are a few examples

 

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/report/50-examples-government-waste

https://www.paul.senate.gov/wastereport/

https://www.cagw.org/reporting/pig-book

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2022/02/11/fighting-fraud-waste-and-abuse-the-infrastructure-bill-and-lessons-for-the-future/

 

In Conservative World, money spent to make big corporations richer is the only thing that isn't a waste.

 

Once again the alleged cpa kevin shows he has no idea of finance.  What does cpa kevin think companies do with their profits?

Originally posted by: Charles

Of course your senile hero Joe Biden opposed raising the debt limit 3 times as a senator.  I imagine he's forgotten about that..and so have you..  Fucking hypocrite much?  

 

"My vote against the debt limit increase cannot change the fact that we have incurred this debt already, and will no doubt incur more," Senator Biden said following his "nay" vote in 2006. "It is a statement that I refuse to be associated with the policies that brought us to this point."

 

Let's not forget little Chuckie Schumer

 

NOW: SENATE MAJORITY LEADER CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “As default gets closer and closer to becoming a reality, our Republican colleagues will be forced to ask themselves how long they are going to keep playing political games while the economic stability of our country is at risk.” 

 

THEN: “Schumer was one of the 44 Democrats who, in a party-line vote, voted against raising the debt limit in 2006. That year, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee -- which Schumer chaired -- aired attack ads against Ohio’s Mike DeWine [R-OH]. ‘Did you know Mike DeWine voted to raise the national debt to $9 trillion?’ the ad’s narrator asks puzzled and alarmed Cincinnatians. ‘Did you know that we’re borrowing $2 billion a day from China and other countries to pay for that?’”

 

It's time for Biden and the Democrats to sit down with the Republicans and negotiate the common sense proposals the House has put forward.  Note that the Republicans did in fact pass a debt ceiling increase.  The Democrats just aren't happy with it.  If the Democats reject it without negotiation, then the default's on them, no?


Republicans had a majority in both houses and did not need Joe Biden's vote for anything.  It was symbolic and never threatened the country's economy or credit rating.   And it was never contingent upon him being appeased legislatively.      SO apples and oranges much?

 

Where do you weigh in, Charles?  Should our country default on debts already incurred because Republicans want to use it as leverage for their legislative agenda ?    good luck

Originally posted by: tom

In Liberal World, money spent to make people's lives better isn't wasted

 

If you google government waste you get 685,000 hits.  Here are a few examples

 

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/report/50-examples-government-waste

https://www.paul.senate.gov/wastereport/

https://www.cagw.org/reporting/pig-book

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2022/02/11/fighting-fraud-waste-and-abuse-the-infrastructure-bill-and-lessons-for-the-future/

 

In Conservative World, money spent to make big corporations richer is the only thing that isn't a waste.

 

Once again the alleged cpa kevin shows he has no idea of finance.  What does cpa kevin think companies do with their profits?


You get various internet opinions about so-called government waste. Big fucking deal. I got rants and raves that Social Security was a waste of money. So was the National Weather Service, according to some stupid motherfucker even dumber than you.

 

What do companies do with their profits? Various things, obviously--but they don't invest them in the country or to improve the lives of citizens. I'll tell you what they've done with the money they saved with the Trump tax cuts--stock buybacks. Trump's lackeys told us that they would use the money to create JOBZ. That, of course, was utter bullshit.

 

So much for your knowledge of finance.

 

Stupid Tommie-poo.

Should our country default on debts already incurred because Republicans want to use it as leverage for their legislative agenda ?

 

Or the democrats could negotiate.  Why is that a problem?

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