About Getting IDs - It isn't easy like conservatives claim.

As mentioned numerous times, nothing prevents people from getting an id, except laziness. 

Yes, you mentioned it several times, and it was and is a stupid lie every time.

OK, I get your question better.   Where I live a DL is suitable identification to present at the polling place.  It 'proves' you are in the correct polling place according to your address.  

But, there is a process for REGISTERING to vote first.  It has been so long I can't remember when or how, but I suspect we did it the first time we went to DMV to get our DLs after moving to the state.   I got a card but that has long been lost.

Once you have REGISTERED to vote you are on the books forever.  If you change addresses within the city (and maybe the state) that information seems to follow you.  What can change is your polling place.   I think I've had my voting place changed.  I got a postcard notifying me of my "new" voting place. 

When you go to your polling place your name etc. is in the big book, even if you haven't voted in years and your polling place changed.  You are in the book.  You show your ID, they look you up to see if you are in the book (i.e. in the correct voting place according to your address), sign in by your name in the book.  My friends who work the polls tell me that for anyone who does not present a photo ID, they are allowed to sign in (something) and proceed to vote.  They don't know what happens after that, any kind of verification.

That is the current process where I live.

Candy

So, Candy, contrary to the new rules that the RepubliQs have forced down the throats of much of the country, the prevailing criterion where you are is that you've registered, and in order to vote, you must present your signature, which will be matched with the one on file.

That's the way it's been done for two centuries. It's perfectly safe and secure. The current RepubliQ rules strip the right to vote from anyone who doesn't possess ID.

That might be a very small portion of the population. It might be fairly easy to get an ID, but I can think of a dozen scenarios in which it would not be easy. But if these laws make it more difficult for some people to vote, and outright prevent other people from voting, there had better be a really, really good reason to implement them, don't you agree? Even if we're only talking about a very few people. Those people are still citizens.

"We lost the election, WAAAAAAH, it was stolen" is not a good reason.

So, were ALL signatures matched for mail-in votes in ALL states?   Were ALL signatures maintained on ALL mail-in votes so they could be audited?   Why not?  

Not a chance that signatures are being confirmed.  Kevin knows that, Jphelan knows that, and I know that.  My signature has changed dramatically over the years, after all.  I've lived in Indiana for a long time and we've needed an I.D. for decades at minimum, but I assume forever.

In California, no identification is required to vote.  How Liberal of them.

Yes, of course. That's what all those people were doing, sitting at desks, working late into the night, sometimes while maskless RepubliQ "election monitors" stood two feet away, scowling at them.

In ALL states, as you say, if a signature on a mail-in ballot didn't match the one on file, that ballot was either discarded or, if the match was close or questionable, set aside for review. The Fox News types bleating about trillions of FAKE NOOZE ballots being counted conveniently ignored how many were invalidated and discarded due to signatures not matching--in every state!

Another Boiler lie. What else do you expect from him?

Did I say something about comparing signatures?   I said I don't know what is done with signatures of those not providing a photo ID; neither do my friends who work the polls.

If any of you have actually gone to the polls to vote you pretty much know that the people working the polls don't spend a lot of time, if any, comparing the photo or signature with how you look that day, your hair style since the photo was taken, etc.  (Ours are good for 8 years now.)   Maybe they do attempt to verify, but it isn't obvious.  As regards "voting fraud" by visiting multiple polling places to 'stuff the ballot box", to me a laughable concept.  The number of humans willing to subject themselves to that process...I can't see it and can't believe it would amount to enough votes to change an outcome.  Perhaps for a local election?  Sheriff? City directors? Tax measure?  Some of my friends have sat all day in their polling station and may have had 5 voters, if that, for things like that.  But some of those 'offices' are won or lost by just a few votes, maybe after a runoff.  Perhaps not important to a majority of citizens in that city, but likely very important to the ones running for office or ones hoping for a tax increase for the schools, or something.

So,inside the voting place are tables with signs directing me to the worker/book coinciding with the first initial of my last name.  Maybe four books, as in A-E, F-J, K-P, etc.  This serves to shorten those lines, of course rather than one book, one line.  I show the ID, the worker looks me up, finds my name/address, has me sign by it.  He/she directs me to an available voting booth.  Can't speak for all cities, counties, polling stations, etc.  I have been turned away when my DL info was not contained in "the book" because my voting station had been changed and I either forgot, lost the notification card, etc.  Could I have simply signed my name and voted there anyway?  Absolutely not.

I also laugh at the concept of 'not having water brought' to voters.   Never saw that anywhere, humans crying for something to drink.  Who these days doesn't have one of those things you can put water or soda in?   Got a tote bag, purse, plastic Walmart bag?  I think this is RIDICULOUS.  If someone isn't bright enough to know that evening voting time for a presidential election may have a long line...gimme a break.   Eat/drink before you go.  Go in the morning.  Go days early if your city has it.   Plan.  Bring a bottle of water or soda.  Or a sandwich if you must, cookies, chips.   This is your responsibility, not that of government either way.  JMHO.

Candy

Yeah tom, we all know you wanted to say "shiftless."

But let's look at what many non-car drivers need to do to get a "voter id":

• Spend time to send away and then pay for a copy of their birth certificate.

• Spend time to send away and then pay for a marriage license if a woman changed their name.

• Take time and pay for public transportation to their DMV office.

• Take time - sometimes a lot of time - at the DMV office.

Clearly, voter id laws clearly favor car drivers who got their license - and their voter id for free.

If you don't get that tom, the only laziness I'm seeing here is in your (or Candy's) brain cells.