Originally posted by: Boilerman
And Kevin doesn't argue for illegal voting rights in America.
No, I don't. I never said that anyone who isn't a citizen should be allowed to vote.
And only fetuses are aborted. Not babies. If it's a baby, it's by definition out of its mother's womb, and can't be aborted.
Boiler, you shame yourself every time you lie about what someone said.
Let me see if I have this straight - according to "MAGA" Lewis, prior to being birthed the baby is considered a "fetus" but the millisecond the "fetus" exits the vagina, it is now considered a "baby".
Originally posted by: David Miller
Let me see if I have this straight - according to "MAGA" Lewis, prior to being birthed the baby is considered a "fetus" but the millisecond the "fetus" exits the vagina, it is now considered a "baby".
Yeah I don't get that line of reasoning either, another thin argument by Kevin, not using any common sense with his reasoning, I'm sure he'll quote some "science" based rationale to try to justify himself, instead of using logic and common sense, a fetus, give me a break
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
You may have given up, but he hasn't.
I don't know about that, just recently he said that covid will be defeated by the states and not the federal government
Originally posted by: David Miller
Let me see if I have this straight - according to "MAGA" Lewis, prior to being birthed the baby is considered a "fetus" but the millisecond the "fetus" exits the vagina, it is now considered a "baby".
That's exactly correct, David! Way to go!
Originally posted by: Roger S
Yeah I don't get that line of reasoning either, another thin argument by Kevin, not using any common sense with his reasoning, I'm sure he'll quote some "science" based rationale to try to justify himself, instead of using logic and common sense, a fetus, give me a break
It's a widely accepted medical and legal definition. I don't need to justify anything.
It's a fetus before it's born. It's a baby after it's born. Why do you find that confusing?
It's a widely accepted medical and legal definition. I don't need to justify anything. It's a fetus before it's born. It's a baby after it's born. Why do you find that confusing?--- Apparently you are too stupid to comprehend
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
It's a widely accepted medical and legal definition. I don't need to justify anything.
It's a fetus before it's born. It's a baby after it's born. Why do you find that confusing?
Well when the Supreme Court overturns Roe vs Wade, try not to be upset by their legal decision
Originally posted by: Roger S
I don't know about that, just recently he said that covid will be defeated by the states and not the federal government
That's not precisely what he said and you're taking it out of context, but yes, he's found that vax and masking resistance have been much stronger than he thought. It's evident that he believed the Republicans wouldn't fight against and disregard health and safety measures meant to keep their constituents from getting sick and dying.
He was wrong. For Republicans, dealing with the pandemic has been all about the associated politics. Biden's a nice guy and doesn't really comprehend why his Republican opponents would kill hundreds of thousands of Americans for political advantage. He just doesn't get how amoral and implacable his opponents really are.
But he's beginning to realize that we're too divided as a nation to have a unified response to anything. So he acknowledges now that the best approach will be state-level measures. Let the Republihole red-state governors bloviate about Preshus Freedumb and get in the way of federal efforts to control the pandemic. Give federal assistance to the sane states instead. Why send vaccines to Texas, for example, when they aren't used and eventually expire? Fuck 'em.
Covid will eventually evolve to a contagious disease, not a pandemic. We've gotten there in the worst possible way, of course. There are still many things the federal government can do to slow infection rates and ease the resultant suffering, and Biden said he will continue to do them.
Biden's difficulties in general have been because he doesn't understand the utterly ruthless nature of his opposition. For his whole career, he was a deal-maker, a "reach across the aisle" type of guy. He's been slow to learn that if you do that now, some glory-seeking rising star RepubliQ will bite your hand off.
(I mean, can you imagine the likes of Greene or Boebert in high elected office twenty years ago?)
Originally posted by: Roger S
Well when the Supreme Court overturns Roe vs Wade, try not to be upset by their legal decision
That won't affect the legal and medical definitions of "baby" and "fetus," nor the fact that a fetus isn't a baby, whether they overturn it or not.
If they do overturn it, that will be a complete and utter disaster for the RepubliQ party--they'll lose millions of female voters, while gaining almost no one--so in a way, I hope that happens. Maybe Trump II (whoever that turns out to be) will create the Federal Abortion Police and require all pregnancies to be registered with the federal government. Funny how conservatives always bleat about "too much government" but are perfectly happy with government monitoring of women's pregnancies.
I believe in a person's absolute right to have sovereignity over his or her body, but I understand that for the old white fucks who dominate the RepubliQ party, a woman isn't really a person and doesn't have the same rights as a man. I also understand how religion clouds and fucks up this issue. We're supposed to have freedom of religion, so Christian dogma shouldn't affect the law. But oh my, it does.
