Anyone else here own some TSLA?

And now he's just a troll.

There is always a huge thundering herd of visionaries. You just never hear about 99.9999% of them. It's not unlike a lottery winner. Did they win because of their savvy or derring-do? No. They won because eventually, someone had to.

Lots of Musk's ideas have been impractical or at least unprofitable. And his most famous idea--the Tesla--was a blunder. He made a foo-foo boutique car for people who like to experiment. Imagine what his market share would be now if he had built $20,000 EVs instead!

Historically innovative and/or successful inventors posessed  one ubiquitous trait you omitted from your "someone had to" description. That is the element of persistance to wade through multiple failures and move on. Walt Disney, Henry Ford, Einstein, Edison, the Wright brothers, and others all demonstrated that trait. I suspect Musk might make such a list eventually. Any inventor who didn't fail several times in his / her trek would, more often than not, likely remain anonymous.

  I think it is amazing that one of those "blundering visionaries"  became one of the richest people in the world as he continued to plod along failing - just imagine how wealthy he could become if he was successful ...

That's what you all are missing. Tesla wasn't Elon's vision. He was just an investor that pushed the visionaries out of the company. 

         Therefore, what you are really saying is without Musk's investments into the company there would not be a Tesla.  Apparently Musk had enough "vision" of his own - and money - to see the potential of Tesla and to make it happen. 

Tesla is a lousy company. Aside from its workplace safety, labor relations, and financing problems, Tesla was ranked 27th out of 28th by Consumer Reports in 2021 for reliability. Musk has and has always had a penchant for cutting corners.

Musk oversaw the deployment of TSLA's on a mass scale which is why they are by far the biggest manufacturer ahead of established car companies that have been around since Henry Ford......

Several other EV companies have tried and failed to do that.   They had good ideas - but they have struggled to bring their ideas to market.   Ever hear of Fisker or Nikola?   Those are EV companies that flunked the marketable product test.    And thats what makes Musk different.   His shit succeeds.  And thats simple truth.    

Doesnt mean you have to like him.

- Once again , Lewis has "cherry picked" info to make a posting look worse than it really is. I am not surprised. -----ByWilliam JohnsonPosted on November 15, 2022 Tesla was found to be one of the most unreliable brands in America, according to Consumer Reports’ annual reliability report. Consumer Reports‘ annual reliability rankings have been released, and with data from 24 brands and over 300,000 vehicles, Tesla fell near the bottom (19/24) along with Mercedes-Benz, Jeep, Volkswagen, GMC, and Chevrolet. Electric vehicles overall also placed poorly, being the second least reliable category of vehicles. Hybrids/plugin hybrids, especially those from Toyota, were found to be the most reliable. Before diving deeper into the rankings, it is crucial to understand how Consumer Reports creates its yearly reliability rankings in the first place. This year, the company surveyed over 300,000 vehicles (sold between 2000-2022), and over the past year, owners were asked to report issues they had with their vehicles. Issues were categorized into 17 categories; engine issues, transmission issues, interior electronics issues, etc. From this accumulation of data, Consumer Reports then gives each brand a grade out of 100 regarding their overall reliability. Consumer Reports also stipulates that they will only rank brands that they have “sufficient survey data for two or more models.” Hence the absence of brands such as Rivian, Alfa Romeo, and Lucid. Tesla scored a reliability score of 40/100, while electric vehicles overall scored 36/100. It isn’t all bad news for Tesla; its score matches the average for domestic automakers,the company was able to improve its ranking by four places compared to last year, and none of its vehicles made it to the list of 10 least reliable vehicles in America. A list that notably included the popular Hyundai Kona EV scoring 5/100.

He's experiencing some failures of late; he's also had some shiny examples of success as well. One company he founded ( with help) was SpaceX, which hasn't been mentioned in the thread as yet ( that I know of). They've made some significant strides in reviving the US space travel industry FWIW after cessation of the shuttle program; he was there to drive that program from early on, and he's still there. One thing about Musk is that he wears more than one coat ( multiple industry involvement), despite the fact that his monetary inputs across varied entities are a part of his overall influences, there's obviously more to him than his wallet. That's quite obvious. I suspect if Twitter and / or Tesla financially combust, I'd expect him to swim out and display his innovative skills elsewhere..based on his performance/s to date. He ain't God, but he's accomplished a lot.