As COVID-19 Spreads Across The US, We Still Aren’t testing people.

This will go down as the biggest disaster in the history of the country. Trump had two months to prepare yet even weeks into this we are only testing people that traveled internationally and those knocking on death's door. Those that show symptoms that don't require immediate hospitalization are told to go home and self-quarantine.  

 

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The good news is that Ted Cruz is under self-quarantine.  

I just saw on 60 min that the DR in charge of Trumps team is Dr Fanuci who has been the head of our pandemic response team for every administration since Reagan and is the most qualified on the subject in the world. He said everything he has recomended has been done by Trump. I think I'll trust his advice is sound and when he says it is neccesary to test more we will over experts who post on social media.

LOL, he is going to get fired if he doesn't toe the line.  You can't trust someone under duress especially someone who's life long work/career is being held, hostage.  How is it logical to think we don't need to test people that are likely virus carriers just because they are not sick enough to hospitalize?  The only way you can stop something like this is to isolate people that have the virus. Our country is doing it differently than every other country.  Korea is testing 10k people a day. 

 

 

All Trump cares about is holding the number of official cases down, and because of that, this virus is spreading like wildfire. Our mortality rate is 5% which is worse than mainland China and Iran.  When we can't measure up to the standards of how third world countries are handling this, how can you trust Trump's government? 

 

Look at the cruise ship off the coast of California right now. The government only tested 45 out of 3,000+ passengers Out those 45 people 21 positives.   How can anyone justify not testing the rest of the passengers? We have a model of how this works.  Over 700 people that were stuck on the cruise ship in Japan eventually got the infection.

 

There is no logical, scientific or medical reason to be withholding tests. In fact, all evidence says we should be testing as many people as we can. 

 

Trump is a sick, sick man and his sickness is letting a virus with a 5% mortality rate spread across the entire country for the sake of keeping his numbers down. 

 

Let's compare.

 

Here are how the infections are spread out in South Korea. 

 

 

Here is how the infections are spread out in the U.S.

 

 

The difference is Korea tested people and attempted to contain the virus. 

Edited on Mar 8, 2020 7:46pm
Originally posted by: Rightdownthemiddle

I just saw on 60 min that the DR in charge of Trumps team is Dr Fanuci who has been the head of our pandemic response team for every administration since Reagan and is the most qualified on the subject in the world. He said everything he has recomended has been done by Trump. I think I'll trust his advice is sound and when he says it is neccesary to test more we will over experts who post on social media.


If he utters one peep of criticism of Trump, he'll be fired in a heartbeat, and he knows it. If he's truly an expert, he realizes that Trump's incompetent response to the coronavirus resulted in its nationwide spread. Is he going to say so? Of course not. Trump axes anyone who even mildly suggests that the bigly genius didn't do something correctly.

 

I'm sure that he would have strongly recommended the urgent production of test kits and the setup of mechanisms for lab testing and quarantine had he been consulted two months ago. Now, he's saying no problem, no big deal, because he knows he'd be out of a job if he pointed out the magnitude of the mess.

 

Trump's most recent statements confirm that he doesn't care about all the deaths that have resulted and will result from his inaction; all he cares about is how the coronavirus has affected his poll numbers. That might be the only positive aspect of all this, in fact--maybe five or six rabid Trumpers will make a frowny face at him at the next hate rally. Maybe.

 

If only Hillary Clinton were President! She would have responded instantly, thoroughly, and competently, and we would have had few or no deaths from the coronavirus. Trumpers, you helped seal the doom of the victims. MAGAMAGAMAGA*gasp*choke*wheeze*THUD*


Originally posted by: Mark

This will go down as the biggest disaster in the history of the country. Trump had two months to prepare yet even weeks into this we are only testing people that traveled internationally and those knocking on death's door. Those that show symptoms that don't require immediate hospitalization are told to go home and self-quarantine.  

 

Link

 

 

The good news is that Ted Cruz is under self-quarantine.  


Then how did the guy in Indianapolis get tested 4-5 days ago without any international travel?  There are now about 2,000,000 test kits available with a couple millioin more going out within the next week or so.  The CDC screwed up the first iteration of the test kits which delayed things.  

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Then how did the guy in Indianapolis get tested 4-5 days ago without any international travel?  There are now about 2,000,000 test kits available with a couple millioin more going out within the next week or so.  The CDC screwed up the first iteration of the test kits which delayed things.  


Actually, Trump screwed it up long ago, since he's deliberately crippled the CDC and its operations from the day he took office. His attacks on health care have made it that much more difficult for people to get tested, since they have to do so at the advice of a medical professional.

 

What Boilerbaby might not understand is that test kits are nice, but the results still have to be processed. Thanks to Trump, who cut funding for pandemic mitigation, the real bottleneck will be that labs can only process so many test kits in a given time frame.

 

The real problem, caused by Trump, is the slowness of the response. He spent weeks babbling to Sean Hannity about his poll numbers, ran off to India, held a hate rally or two, etc. before lifting a finger to deal with the coronavirus.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

Actually, Trump screwed it up long ago, since he's deliberately crippled the CDC and its operations from the day he took office. His attacks on health care have made it that much more difficult for people to get tested, since they have to do so at the advice of a medical professional.

 

What Boilerbaby might not understand is that test kits are nice, but the results still have to be processed. Thanks to Trump, who cut funding for pandemic mitigation, the real bottleneck will be that labs can only process so many test kits in a given time frame.

 

The real problem, caused by Trump, is the slowness of the response. He spent weeks babbling to Sean Hannity about his poll numbers, ran off to India, held a hate rally or two, etc. before lifting a finger to deal with the coronavirus.


Specifically, how has Trump crippled the CDC?  Is anyone today not able to be tested around the country?

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Specifically, how has Trump crippled the CDC?  Is anyone today not able to be tested around the country?


Virtually everyone. 330 million people. 1.2 million test kits so far. And there is no mechanism in place to process all those test kits--getting tested isn't enough in and of itself. And testing and processing costs money--thanks to Trump, tens of millions of people don't have health insurance.

 

Obama's pandemic response team had a strategy in place to deal with massive testing and lab processing needs. Trump tore all that apart.

 

Trump just visited the CDC and made a bunch of very disturbing remarks re how he had made a "perfect" response to the coronavirus outbreak and pitched a bunch of criticism at the agency. He's attempting to make the public distrust the CDC for political gain.

 

The CDC recommended that elderly and at-risk persons refrain from flying until the outbreak is contained. Trump removed that aspect of the plan submitted to the administration by the CDC. Because, uh, he's a bigly genius who knows better.

Originally posted by: Boilerman

Then how did the guy in Indianapolis get tested 4-5 days ago without any international travel?  There are now about 2,000,000 test kits available with a couple millioin more going out within the next week or so.  The CDC screwed up the first iteration of the test kits which delayed things.  


He was sick enough to hospitalize. They caught it in Boston and brought it back to Indy. 

 

This is the fourth case of the illness known as COVID-19 to surface in Indiana in as many days. Two of the four cases have occurred in adults — one in Marion County and one in Hendricks County — who traveled in late February to a Boston conference. More than 25 people who attended that gathering have tested positive for COVID-19. - Indy Star

 

It would have been nice if Trump had tried to isolate the virus-like other countries have done, wouldn't it? 

Originally posted by: Mark

He was sick enough to hospitalize. They caught it in Boston and brought it back to Indy. 

 

This is the fourth case of the illness known as COVID-19 to surface in Indiana in as many days. Two of the four cases have occurred in adults — one in Marion County and one in Hendricks County — who traveled in late February to a Boston conference. More than 25 people who attended that gathering have tested positive for COVID-19. - Indy Star

 

It would have been nice if Trump had tried to isolate the virus-like other countries have done, wouldn't it? 


The first infected Indiana guy wasn't hospitalized.  He spent three hours at the hospital, and was sent home.

 

For those who argue that Trump is going a horrible job, and Obama did a wonderful job with the H1N1 (swine flu), here is plenty of interesting information.  Mexican origination dates, US first infection dates, Americans already sick and dead as Obama claimed a national emergency.  I don't know with certainty the Trump is doing better than Obama did with his pandemic, but the facts seems to be leaning that way.  Certainly there is no runaway winner in this race, it appears.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

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