More "lets cover Cumo's murderous ass" excuses from Kevin. Take it for what it is worth. Cuomo had as much information as the President - but the President did not demand the infected to be sent to retirement homes - Cuomo did.
More "lets cover Cumo's murderous ass" excuses from Kevin. Take it for what it is worth. Cuomo had as much information as the President - but the President did not demand the infected to be sent to retirement homes - Cuomo did.
Trump had been getting daily classified briefings for two months. He ignored them.
But sure, excuse all of his deadly fuckups and attack Cuomo instead--as if that makes any of Trump's fuckups less real. Be a Trump stooge. It's what you DO.
Anyone remember trump's government shutdown?
Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis
I already explained it. At the time, overburdened hospitals couldn't meaningfully treat those patients anyway. Moving them into nursing homes freed up hospital bed and ICU capacity.
The nursing homes knew full well how to isolate those patients and minimize the risk of spreading the infection. The degree to which they did so is a different issue. But most nursing homes placed their infected residents in quarantine areas.
These elderly patients received better and more personalized care than they would have while lying on a gurney in a hall, waiting for a hospital bed to become available. Anyone whose symptoms became acute was rushed to the hospital.
The key is, you have to remember, for most people who contracted the virus and were not in immediate distress, the advice from doctors was "go home and come back if you get significantly worse." For many of these elderly patients, that wasn't a viable option. Therefore, the stopgap measure of putting them in nursing homes was implemented.
I'm highly amused at our Trumpers donning the costume of highly qualified medical experts and trying to tell us, with the benefit of hindsight, what according to THEM, Cuomo should have done.
And in response to the inevitable question, Trump had far more information and vastly greater resources than Cuomo; yet, he sat with his thumb up his ass for two months. In response to urgent warnings, he fired the people who provided those warnings.
When in doubt repeat the lie.
Only a few hospitals were overburdened. Most were not.
Cuomo could have sent these people to the Comfort, which was barely used.
The Javits Center was also underutilized.
The Comfort was sent back & the Javits Center was closed almost 2 weeks before Cuomo was pressured into changing his policy.
The Westchester County Center was set up, but never used, due to a lack of demand.
There was plenty of unused beds that could have been used instead of the nursing homes.
In other stupid news, the mayor of virus city closed the beaches this weekend & threatened to arrest anybody who had the nerve to go swimming. Then he complained when Nassau & Suffolk counties only made their beaches only available to county residents.
Originally posted by: tom
Cuomo could have sent these people to the Comfort, which was barely used.
The Javits Center was also underutilized.
The Comfort was sent back & the Javits Center was closed almost 2 weeks before Cuomo was pressured into changing his policy.
At the direction of the federal government, the USS Comfort refused all Covid patients. LINK
And the federally operated Javits Center initially refused all Covid patients unless they were recovering, and they only had "a couple" of ventilators on hand. LINK
Has anyone ever seen tom back up one of his claims here with any proof? Me neither.
Originally posted by: MisterPicture
At the direction of the federal government, the USS Comfort refused all Covid patients. LINK
And the federally operated Javits Center initially refused all Covid patients unless they were recovering, and they only had "a couple" of ventilators on hand. LINK
Has anyone ever seen tom back up one of his claims here with any proof? Me neither.
How convenient that you left off the fact that on April 8 only a week after accepting it's first patient, the USS Comfort had been reconfigured to treat up to 500 patients infected with the COVID-19 virus. The original mission was to accept trauma and other emergency patients to help relieve the load on the NY City Hospitals. That's kind of deceptive not to mention that when you claim they 'refused all covid patients', don't you think? Or maybe just an honest oversight.
And as to the Javits Center, the patients sent back to nursing homes were clearly recovering, right? They didn't send back Covid patients who needed intensive care or ventilators did they? But they were still contageous, right? Seems like it would have been smarter to let them recover where they wouldn't infect a bunch of uninfected high risk individuals. But I'll not attack that.
https://news.usni.org/2020/04/07/usns-comfort-prepared-for-500-covid-19-patients-crewmember-diagnosed-with-virus
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/magazine/hospital-ship-comfort-new-york-coronavirus.html
I don't think this is the time to attack New York's response or the Federal Government's response as it all becomes a political hate game not a real review of what happened and how response could have been improved. They did their best. There's plenty of mistakes, but also a lot more incredible effort and remarkable achievements at all levels of our government. People working tirelessly to help us all. That includes Governor Cuomo and President Trump and the CDC, NIH, FDA and state healthcare agencies and even the National Guard and US Navy. I hate that this is so politicized.
Originally posted by: Charles
How convenient that you left off the fact that on April 8 only a week after accepting it's first patient, the USS Comfort had been reconfigured to treat up to 500 patients infected with the COVID-19 virus. The original mission was to accept trauma and other emergency patients to help relieve the load on the NY City Hospitals. That's kind of deceptive not to mention that when you claim they 'refused all covid patients', don't you think? Or maybe just an honest oversight.
And as to the Javits Center, the patients sent back to nursing homes were clearly recovering, right? They didn't send back Covid patients who needed intensive care or ventilators did they? But they were still contageous, right? Seems like it would have been smarter to let them recover where they wouldn't infect a bunch of uninfected high risk individuals. But I'll not attack that.
https://news.usni.org/2020/04/07/usns-comfort-prepared-for-500-covid-19-patients-crewmember-diagnosed-with-virus
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/magazine/hospital-ship-comfort-new-york-coronavirus.html
I don't think this is the time to attack New York's response or the Federal Government's response as it all becomes a political hate game not a real review of what happened and how response could have been improved. They did their best. There's plenty of mistakes, but also a lot more incredible effort and remarkable achievements at all levels of our government. People working tirelessly to help us all. That includes Governor Cuomo and President Trump and the CDC, NIH, FDA and state healthcare agencies and even the National Guard and US Navy. I hate that this is so politicized.
Here's my way of making this non-politicized: Democrat Cuomo did a crap job (as usual), Democrat di Bliaso was awful, and Trump was a disaster.
I'd be happy to vote against any of them.
Saying that Trump did anything more than get in the way is a statement of fawning, drooling partisanship. He fucked up. Massively. Big-time. Repeatedly.
Cuomo also blew it. But at least he recognized his errors and fixed them.
That's the difference between the two. And I don't like and wouldn't vote for either one. But Trump is a mentally diseased, evil criminal and traitor. The tired old Trumper argument of false equivalence fails miserably here.
Last Friday the mayor of virus city proclaimed that even though the city could be shut down into September he expects small businesses to weather the storm & reopen.
Apparently he thinks businesses can survive 6 months with no revenue.
He actually "thinks"?
