Do you support removing illegal aliens from Medicaid to protect resources for American citizens?

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

I wouldn't ignore David.  I read everybody.  It's instructional to know what other people are thinking, what is in people's minds.   On occasion I may have something to say that is of value to somebody. 

 

JMHO.

 

Candy

 


Sounds great, I will ignore him and you can let us know when he adds value to the community. JMHO. NC

Originally posted by: Susan Johnson

You all missed Patsy's point. Many hospitals are not allowed to turn away anyone, even if they can't pay or have insurance. This becomes a financial drain on the hospital,  increasing overall costs for the rest of us, no matter how we fund our own healthcare. So even though some may or may not be on any level of a government program, they are still getting care at someone else's expense. 


Patsy's point had little to do with the OP's rant about horrible horrible horrible illegal aliens receiving health care. Emergency rooms also treat troo-bloo AMURRICANS who don't have health insurance of any kind, including Medicaid. So there's a "financial drain" there as well.

 

But is it? 

 

From a societal standpoint, what do you think would be the consequences of hospital ERs turning away people who didn't have health insurance, FEELTHY ILLEGULS or otherwise? You'd have people literally dying in the streets. Staggering around with serious wounds, broken bones, etc. And what about infection? Turn away someone with severe flu symptoms, and how many more catch the flu as a result? What might a desperate person, in agony or dying, do? Wouldn't all of the above be costly, maybe not to the hospital but certainly to the city it's in?

 

So take compassion completely out of the equation. It's cheaper to treat someone now than to scrape them off the sidewalk later. It's that simple. And it's certainly cheaper to treat someone with a contagious disease than to boot them out onto the street and have to treat twelve more infected people later as a result. Having sick/injured people who can't get care staggering around is a costly burden on police, city services, etc. etc.

 

I also want to point out that if ERs required proof of citizenship to dispense treatment, a LOT of people arrive at the ER without such proof. A man has a heart attack in the middle of the night. His wife calls an ambulance. They bundle him off to the hospital, stat. Do they stop to search his bedroom for his wallet? Or when somebody arrives at the ER, do we interrogate her regarding her insurance and citizenship before stopping her bleeding or setting her broken leg?

 

The idea of saving money by betting people (whatever demographic you despise) from hospital ERs is a chimera.

Barring, not betting. Didn't edit it in order to keep the quoted post for reference.

Candy,I am with you.I listen to all points of view.I always like your posts.


Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

I wouldn't ignore David.  I read everybody.  It's instructional to know what other people are thinking, what is in people's minds.   On occasion I may have something to say that is of value to somebody. 

 

JMHO.

 

Candy

 


But Candy, don't you realize that David's posts have absolutely nothing to do with his actual thoughts and viewpoints? That "David Miller" is just a persona he's constructed in order to start arguments and attack and insult people, something he obviously greatly enjoys?

 

Here's the thing. From time to time, one or more of us will attempt to engage him in legitimate discussion. He NEVER. cooperates. He just devolves to insults and screaming. He especially hates it when someone points out a flaw in a claim he's making and/or challenges him to back up that claim with a source other than Facebook.

 

It might indeed be interesting to read the opinions of the man behind the David Miller facade. The persona whose posts we read, though, is just an artificial construct who is a drooling Trump-slave with the compulsion to praise and defend his every action.

 

And given your recent disenchantment (none too soon!) with Trump, do you really want to read the opinions of a cartoon character who thinks that Trump is perfect and can do no wrong?

 

I regard it as not unlike reading a newspaper editorial from 1936 Germany, praising Hitler. Do I want to read those thoughts, genuine or not?

Kevin, thanks but don't worry about me.  I'll open a post of David's depending on the Title/Topic, sometimes based on the number of replies already logged, thinking maybe there is something to see.   Many I do not open at all, David's and others of topics I'm tired of or not interested in. 

 

And I can quickly click out when I see those inane memes. etc.

 

I don't look to KS for well written opinion pieces.   

 

As for reading something about Hitler, I like old history.   Didn't learn about those czars and tsars in high school.  Did anyone?

 

Candy

 

 

Originally posted by: Patsy

Candy,I am with you.I listen to all points of view.I always like your posts.


Thank you, Patsy.  You and I are of like mind.  I'd been an ER nurse, circa 1968. 

 

City hospital, 'knife and gun club' on Friday nights.  All patients were charity, nobody turned away. 

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Kevin, thanks but don't worry about me.  I'll open a post of David's depending on the Title/Topic, sometimes based on the number of replies already logged, thinking maybe there is something to see.   Many I do not open at all, David's and others of topics I'm tired of or not interested in. 

 

And I can quickly click out when I see those inane memes. etc.

 

I don't look to KS for well written opinion pieces.   

 

As for reading something about Hitler, I like old history.   Didn't learn about those czars and tsars in high school.  Did anyone?

 

Candy

 

 


I did, but not a great deal. But then, I read history books for fun, even then.

 

All propaganda to support a Dear Leader, whoever that may be, is tiresomely similar. Fulsome praise for their master. Fervent applause for everything he does. He's a genius as well as benevolent and wise. Blah blah blah. The crap you see on Fakebook and Fox Nooze is just old propaganda recycled for a new audience.

 

Reading that crud is much different than reading something about Hitler et al, which would deal with their flaws and failings as well as their accomplishments. And as far as David's posts go, even Goebbels' speeches didn't call his adverseries "obtuse" or "delusional" or suffering from HDS.

Sort of like "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" kind of thinking on Goebbels' part?

 

Like the flying monkeys in the Wizard of Oz, allegiance to the controlling witch, helping her abuse other people.  

Edited on Apr 18, 2026 5:00am
Originally posted by: PJ Stroh

Tom - this is from YOUR SOURCE that you provided.....did you even read it ?

 

"Because federal Medicaid dollars cannot cover undocumented residents except in emergencies, the entire expansion is paid with state general fund money, costing California billions annually."


Funny! If I'm chatting with tom, I'll read his sources; many times, his conclusion isn't supported by the source he cites. 

 

It's really very odd to be so biased that you read an article and you only see what you want to believe. What a sad existence.

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