Do you support removing illegal aliens from Medicaid to protect resources for American citizens?

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

I wouldn't ignore David.  I read everybody.  It's instructional to know what other people are thinking, what is in people's minds.   On occasion I may have something to say that is of value to somebody. 

 

JMHO.

 

Candy

 


Sounds great, I will ignore him and you can let us know when he adds value to the community. JMHO. NC

Originally posted by: Susan Johnson

You all missed Patsy's point. Many hospitals are not allowed to turn away anyone, even if they can't pay or have insurance. This becomes a financial drain on the hospital,  increasing overall costs for the rest of us, no matter how we fund our own healthcare. So even though some may or may not be on any level of a government program, they are still getting care at someone else's expense. 


Patsy's point had little to do with the OP's rant about horrible horrible horrible illegal aliens receiving health care. Emergency rooms also treat troo-bloo AMURRICANS who don't have health insurance of any kind, including Medicaid. So there's a "financial drain" there as well.

 

But is it? 

 

From a societal standpoint, what do you think would be the consequences of hospital ERs turning away people who didn't have health insurance, FEELTHY ILLEGULS or otherwise? You'd have people literally dying in the streets. Staggering around with serious wounds, broken bones, etc. And what about infection? Turn away someone with severe flu symptoms, and how many more catch the flu as a result? What might a desperate person, in agony or dying, do? Wouldn't all of the above be costly, maybe not to the hospital but certainly to the city it's in?

 

So take compassion completely out of the equation. It's cheaper to treat someone now than to scrape them off the sidewalk later. It's that simple. And it's certainly cheaper to treat someone with a contagious disease than to boot them out onto the street and have to treat twelve more infected people later as a result. Having sick/injured people who can't get care staggering around is a costly burden on police, city services, etc. etc.

 

I also want to point out that if ERs required proof of citizenship to dispense treatment, a LOT of people arrive at the ER without such proof. A man has a heart attack in the middle of the night. His wife calls an ambulance. They bundle him off to the hospital, stat. Do they stop to search his bedroom for his wallet? Or when somebody arrives at the ER, do we interrogate her regarding her insurance and citizenship before stopping her bleeding or setting her broken leg?

 

The idea of saving money by betting people (whatever demographic you despise) from hospital ERs is a chimera.

Barring, not betting. Didn't edit it in order to keep the quoted post for reference.

Candy,I am with you.I listen to all points of view.I always like your posts.


Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

I wouldn't ignore David.  I read everybody.  It's instructional to know what other people are thinking, what is in people's minds.   On occasion I may have something to say that is of value to somebody. 

 

JMHO.

 

Candy

 


But Candy, don't you realize that David's posts have absolutely nothing to do with his actual thoughts and viewpoints? That "David Miller" is just a persona he's constructed in order to start arguments and attack and insult people, something he obviously greatly enjoys?

 

Here's the thing. From time to time, one or more of us will attempt to engage him in legitimate discussion. He NEVER. cooperates. He just devolves to insults and screaming. He especially hates it when someone points out a flaw in a claim he's making and/or challenges him to back up that claim with a source other than Facebook.

 

It might indeed be interesting to read the opinions of the man behind the David Miller facade. The persona whose posts we read, though, is just an artificial construct who is a drooling Trump-slave with the compulsion to praise and defend his every action.

 

And given your recent disenchantment (none too soon!) with Trump, do you really want to read the opinions of a cartoon character who thinks that Trump is perfect and can do no wrong?

 

I regard it as not unlike reading a newspaper editorial from 1936 Germany, praising Hitler. Do I want to read those thoughts, genuine or not?

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