Originally posted by: Susan Johnson
You all missed Patsy's point. Many hospitals are not allowed to turn away anyone, even if they can't pay or have insurance. This becomes a financial drain on the hospital, increasing overall costs for the rest of us, no matter how we fund our own healthcare. So even though some may or may not be on any level of a government program, they are still getting care at someone else's expense.
Patsy's point had little to do with the OP's rant about horrible horrible horrible illegal aliens receiving health care. Emergency rooms also treat troo-bloo AMURRICANS who don't have health insurance of any kind, including Medicaid. So there's a "financial drain" there as well.
But is it?
From a societal standpoint, what do you think would be the consequences of hospital ERs turning away people who didn't have health insurance, FEELTHY ILLEGULS or otherwise? You'd have people literally dying in the streets. Staggering around with serious wounds, broken bones, etc. And what about infection? Turn away someone with severe flu symptoms, and how many more catch the flu as a result? What might a desperate person, in agony or dying, do? Wouldn't all of the above be costly, maybe not to the hospital but certainly to the city it's in?
So take compassion completely out of the equation. It's cheaper to treat someone now than to scrape them off the sidewalk later. It's that simple. And it's certainly cheaper to treat someone with a contagious disease than to boot them out onto the street and have to treat twelve more infected people later as a result. Having sick/injured people who can't get care staggering around is a costly burden on police, city services, etc. etc.
I also want to point out that if ERs required proof of citizenship to dispense treatment, a LOT of people arrive at the ER without such proof. A man has a heart attack in the middle of the night. His wife calls an ambulance. They bundle him off to the hospital, stat. Do they stop to search his bedroom for his wallet? Or when somebody arrives at the ER, do we interrogate her regarding her insurance and citizenship before stopping her bleeding or setting her broken leg?
The idea of saving money by betting people (whatever demographic you despise) from hospital ERs is a chimera.