Dr. Oz Wants Local Politicians To Decide If It's Ok For A Woman To Have An Abortion

For the RepubliQ, ideological purity is worth the deaths of a few thousand women, most of whom wouldn't have voted for them anyway.

I consider it extremely immoral to take away people's rights and put them in danger in order to gain power. Likewise, I consider it extremely immoral to support those who want to do that. Also, being a paid employee of

big corporations and doing their bidding rather than that of the people you purport to represent is repugnant.

You assume way too much about  my stances  regarding abortion. You have no definitive clue what they are, yet you post MY position on how anybody should/ would handle an ectopic pregnancy. I'm pro-life, as you might generally presume, but I believe there should be exceptions for the particular and related situations to which you alluded to. So, you screwed up at least twice with your assumptions. I certainly won't lose any sleep over that...and , in the interest of fairness, you shouldn't either.

Oz  should have responded differently / more clearly regarding the debate abortion question. He should have just reiterated the literal SCOTUS outcome to leave abortion decisions up to individual states. I realize that SCOTUS outcome gives you no comfort and that you disagree with it..that's your right. Your real concern and issue with me specifically  IS that recent SCOTUS decision / ruling ( you want me to assume full responsibility for that decision just by my conservative affiliation) and your subsequent concern that there will soon be a federal abortion ban mandate from the US Congress. I don't know what they're going to do, but I'll speculate that hypothetical ban mandate won't happen despite Lindsay Graham's bill introduction. I don't know..neither do you. But I won't take a beating because of what Mayor Quimby and the like might or might not do regarding..anything. Fair enough? We disagree on issues...but if we take our vitamins and bathe occasionally we'll live through it.

BTW, are you still on board with our wager? How are you feeling about that outcome currently? Just curious.

Some Republicans, in fact many, piss me off daily with their words and actions (and inactions). I try to be equitable with my general loathing of the great grand majority of politicians regardless of party affiliation. Issue-wise, I don't waver much on those, though I reserve the right to change my mind occasionally. I likely screw up as much as the next guy, though..just write another hot check, etc.

Charles, You are misrepresenting what the SCOTUS outcome was.  In fact, the SCOTUS outcome was designed to pave the way for a future national abortion ban rather than a state by state approach. Why? If SCOTUS had wanted to leave it up to the states, they simply could have upheld Mississippi's 15 week abortion ban. 

That would have signaled to other red states that they could now create their own super restrictive abortion bans that as a practical matter eliminate abortions in those states. It would have also allowed them to follow existing precedent and not expose them as the radical christofascists hacks that they are.

But they needed to get rid of abortion as a fundamental right. That is the only way when Republicans control all three branches of government at some point in the future that a nationwide abortion ban would be legal.  If abortion was still a fundamental right on the Federal level, they wouldn't be able to pass a law banning abortions in all 50 states. 

Don't fool yourself and others by claiming it's a states' rights issue.

States don't have the right to nullify fundamental human rights, such as those enumerated in the Fourteenth Amendment. The abortion issue is just a part of the larger RepubliQ crusade to change all that. They want red states to be allowed to turn into fascist dictatorships where their power can be cemented into place for generations. Abbott's thousand-year Reich is the dream.

The RepubliQ supporters who are good people--and there are some--willfully ignore this dark aspect of their party's agenda. And as far as ideological purity goes-- I wonder how they reconcile the Federal Abortion Police with "small government."

No, I didn't mislead anybody intentionally. I simply stated the broad current status of the recent SCOTUS outcome. Your speculation that that outcome will function as an initial first-step gateway to an eventual process of a federal nationwide ban might be correct..I don't know. Do you with certainty? If history tells us anything, this exceedingly sensitive issue will likely rage on for a long time.

What we know for certain: the elimination of this AND MANY OTHER fundamental human and citizen rights is a fundamental goal of the RepubliQ. God knows, they've made no bones about it.

What we know almost for certain: the RepubliQ will seize complete control of the federal government in the very near future, and will never relinquish such control. They will crush our democracy. This, too, is their professed goal.

Democracy is fragile, and evil is often stronger than good. I'm afraid that twenty years from now, this post would land me in federal prison and there will be a huge poster of Trump or his successor in every classroom.

You've lived long enough to know that mid-term elections often involve considerable congressional seat losses for the party in power at the time of those elections. Historically, it's a consistent and truly cyclical trend. If  the R's regain power in both the House and Senate post election ( and we don't know that with certainty today), you'll still have some legislative hope left with Biden's veto power. Any potential veto can be overridden with a two-thirds vote from both houses of course. In most cases and , depending on the specific legislative decision issues, there likely won't be enough congressional seat disparity ( particularly in the Senate)  to reach the veto override level. So you've got some hope left from our legislative system on some issues with that..again if the R's do attain elective orgasm.

If the R's win both houses, they will gain all the power associated with committee chairmanships plus the control over what legislative bills can come to the floor in many cases ( eg Schumer's recent history). These politicians thrive on and adore " committee investigations"..there's likely going to be an incessant ton of that in the next two years if the R's regain power. So, brace for that likelihood if the outcome occurs; it wields a lot of legislative power / influence.

Republicans and Democrats take turns with the power position..and always have. So the people's voices are still distantly heard on occasion, hopefully.  We'll see.

The Democrats haven't enjoyed absolute power over the last two years--far from it. And I agree with you that even if the Republipigs win the House and the Senate, they won't be able to enact many of their evil goals, due to a lack of a supermajority and the continued presence of Biden. I'm referring more to 2024 and after. Do you think the RepubliQ will have any inclination for compromise at that point? Of course not--they'll just sneer and shove the Democrats aside. This is in stark contrast with the kum-by-ya approach employed by Democrats over the last couple of decades: make concessions to keep the peace. SURELY in reciprocation, the RepubliQ won't mindlessly obstruct everything we try to do, for no reason other than "because you wish it." Right? RIGHT??

This was reflected in how the Republipigs railed against Obamacare and what was eventually passed was gutted and flawed (and of course, the RepubliQ blamed Obama for its failings). More recently, it's been all the futile efforts to get the Republipigs on board with legislation they profess to want.

So, the road map shows: today, democracy (more or less); 2023-2024, gridlock; 2025--the end, authoritarian fascism. The upcoming interregnum will be filled with RepubliQ bleating and wailing, "investigations" into Hunter Biden's radioactive laptop, and various vindictive efforts to exact revenge for the double impeachment of their orange god. But it'll be paradise compared to when the RepubliQ take over. That'll be a horrific nightmare, and I wish that was only hyperbole.

So, hooray for your gang, Charles. And congrats! No more liberal bitches running around killing their babies. No more billions and billions of ILLLEEEGULLS a'floodin across da border--we's gonna shoot dem on sight. No more black bastards voting! And no more teachin' CRT to kindergarteners!

Your last paragraph above is full of monstrously exxagerated  overkill descriptors, but we'll certainly have an edge on some of those issues. You're not gonna allow us to enjoy it, are ya? I can tell. It'll be your sides turn again soon enough, assuming a sweeping R victory in a few days. Just give the R's a little time to piss off the electorate again after a little time in power ( historically speaking, again). That'll happen.

In particular, the "no more black bastards voting" phrasing, where/why do you think that's gonna happen? That's really ridiculous and a bit mythical..and in fact represents but an infinitesimally small  proportion of your opposition's opinion. Pretty shallow, Kevin...but it's your business.