Hormuz Choke Point Persists as Iran Halts Oil Traffic Despite Trump Ceasefire

Originally posted by: tom

Vance also said Lebanon wasn't indluded.

 

The usual  suspects here prefer that Iran (run by people who think they are going to heaven by killing people including their own) get a nuclear intercontinental missile & have the ability to cut off the oil supply whenever they felt like it. 

 

That is the alternative. 


False dichotomy. 

Originally posted by: tom

Vance also said Lebanon wasn't indluded.

 

The usual  suspects here prefer that Iran (run by people who think they are going to heaven by killing people including their own) get a nuclear intercontinental missile & have the ability to cut off the oil supply whenever they felt like it. 

 

That is the alternative. 


Vance labeled it a legitimate misunderstanding. However, he was wrong, and he knew it. As we've already tried to explain to you, Pakistan's proposal included the allies of both sides as parties to the ceasefire. 

 

You can't get away with an oversimplification; we won't let you. There are more "alternatives" than the scenario you painted. One would be to restore the Obama agreement that the Turd violated.

 

Iran doesn't have the ability to "cut off the oil supply." It has the ability to disrupt one-fifth of the world's supply--temporarily.

 

But tell us, stupid Tom. If you object to Iran cutting off passage through the Strait, how do you feel about your orange master threatening to do the exact same thing?

 

Give us a Tom-stat and some o' that ol' Tom-logic!

As posted earlier from the IEAE Iran violated the agreement from the beginning. 

So what is the alternative?

Originally posted by: tom

As posted earlier from the IEAE Iran violated the agreement from the beginning. 

So what is the alternative?


The CIA as well as the appointed inspectors say that Iran was honoring the agreement.

 

Using a single, biased "source" to support an unfounded opinion is Tom-logic at its worst.

 

And I just told you that AN alternative--not THE alternative, that's stupid Tom-logic false dichotomy--is to return to the status at the end of the Obama administration. There are multiple other ways out of this mess as well, but there aren't any that don't involve Trump eating a little crow.


The IEAE were the inspectors and they said Iran was in violation. 

Originally posted by: tom

The IEAE were the inspectors and they said Iran was in violation. 


Not until Trump tore up the agreement.

 

Remember the links you posted the other day trying to make your point but actually made Obama's?

 

I guess you weren't embarrassed by that.

Not until Trump tore up the agreement.

 

Lets try again.  The US didn't withdraw until 2018.

 

https://emetonline.org/resource/iran-violations-since-jcpoa/ 

 

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has never certified that Iran is in “compliance” with the deal. Moreover, each quarter since January 2016, the IAEA has reported that it still has not been able to determine that Iran has no undeclared nuclear facilities and materials and thus cannot conclude that Iran’s nuclear program is peaceful.

Originally posted by: tom

Not until Trump tore up the agreement.

 

Lets try again.  The US didn't withdraw until 2018.

 

https://emetonline.org/resource/iran-violations-since-jcpoa/ 

 

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has never certified that Iran is in “compliance” with the deal. Moreover, each quarter since January 2016, the IAEA has reported that it still has not been able to determine that Iran has no undeclared nuclear facilities and materials and thus cannot conclude that Iran’s nuclear program is peaceful.


Who was President in 2018, stupid Tom?:Think real hard!!!!

Once again we see why kevin teaches nursery school - he can't read.  Note the year 2016, the first year of the deal.

 

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has never certified that Iran is in “compliance” with the deal. Moreover, each quarter since January 2016, the IAEA has reported that it still has not been able to determine that Iran has no undeclared nuclear facilities and materials and thus cannot conclude that Iran’s nuclear program is peaceful.

 

 

Originally posted by: tom

Once again we see why kevin teaches nursery school - he can't read.  Note the year 2016, the first year of the deal.

 

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has never certified that Iran is in “compliance” with the deal. Moreover, each quarter since January 2016, the IAEA has reported that it still has not been able to determine that Iran has no undeclared nuclear facilities and materials and thus cannot conclude that Iran’s nuclear program is peaceful.

 

 


 Lewis is losing it - get some professional mental health help, Lewis.....

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